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From: David Lukes <davel@luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: micro vs monolithic kernels
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:19:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01041016242401.10507@luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0104092151580.8213-100000@jupiter.scs.ryerson.ca>

<flame-bait>

> Hence we see the segmentation between programmers and software engineers.

No, we see the bogus dichotomy between so-called programmers and
so-called software engineers when fly-by-wire aircraft control systems
override their pilots and crash airliners.

> one question does anyone find bell labs' documentation a poor disgrace to
> software engineering's design process.

The BTL^H^H^H Lucent documentation is far better than the reams of
vacuous bureacratic drivel which accompanies most so-called
"software engineering" projects.

Also, you use a singular, whereas, like religions,
there are many "software-engineering" "disciplines".

The use of the term "software engineering" to imply a degree
of reliability not present in "programming" is totally bogus:
engineering is not an exact art/science/whatever:
buildings and bridges still fall down,
car manufacturers still need product recalls,
and aircraft, both fly-by-wire and traditional, still fall out of the sky.

</flame-bait>

	Dave.


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-10  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-10  1:07 Russ Cox
2001-04-10  1:44 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10  1:45   ` William Josephson
2001-04-10  1:52     ` Dave Iafrate - CSCI/F1997
2001-04-10  9:19       ` David Lukes [this message]
2001-04-11  8:36         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-10  2:33   ` Dan Cross
2001-04-10  2:48     ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-04-10  9:02     ` Boyd Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-10  0:28 jmk
2001-04-10  9:02 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-10  9:03 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-04-09 23:20 Matt
2001-04-10  0:26 ` [9fans] " Jim Choate
2001-04-10  9:01   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-09 22:34 [9fans] " Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-04-09 23:08 ` [9fans] " Jim Choate
2001-04-09 22:50   ` Lyndon Nerenberg

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