From: David Lukes <davel@luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: micro vs monolithic kernels
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:19:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01041016242401.10507@luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0104092151580.8213-100000@jupiter.scs.ryerson.ca>
<flame-bait>
> Hence we see the segmentation between programmers and software engineers.
No, we see the bogus dichotomy between so-called programmers and
so-called software engineers when fly-by-wire aircraft control systems
override their pilots and crash airliners.
> one question does anyone find bell labs' documentation a poor disgrace to
> software engineering's design process.
The BTL^H^H^H Lucent documentation is far better than the reams of
vacuous bureacratic drivel which accompanies most so-called
"software engineering" projects.
Also, you use a singular, whereas, like religions,
there are many "software-engineering" "disciplines".
The use of the term "software engineering" to imply a degree
of reliability not present in "programming" is totally bogus:
engineering is not an exact art/science/whatever:
buildings and bridges still fall down,
car manufacturers still need product recalls,
and aircraft, both fly-by-wire and traditional, still fall out of the sky.
</flame-bait>
Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-10 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-10 1:07 Russ Cox
2001-04-10 1:44 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10 1:45 ` William Josephson
2001-04-10 1:52 ` Dave Iafrate - CSCI/F1997
2001-04-10 9:19 ` David Lukes [this message]
2001-04-11 8:36 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-10 2:33 ` Dan Cross
2001-04-10 2:48 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-04-10 9:02 ` Boyd Roberts
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-10 0:28 jmk
2001-04-10 9:02 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-10 9:03 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-04-09 23:20 Matt
2001-04-10 0:26 ` [9fans] " Jim Choate
2001-04-10 9:01 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-09 22:34 [9fans] " Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-04-09 23:08 ` [9fans] " Jim Choate
2001-04-09 22:50 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
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