From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Lukes To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: micro vs monolithic kernels Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041016242401.10507@luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:19:04 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7f811f22-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > Hence we see the segmentation between programmers and software engineers. No, we see the bogus dichotomy between so-called programmers and so-called software engineers when fly-by-wire aircraft control systems override their pilots and crash airliners. > one question does anyone find bell labs' documentation a poor disgrace to > software engineering's design process. The BTL^H^H^H Lucent documentation is far better than the reams of vacuous bureacratic drivel which accompanies most so-called "software engineering" projects. Also, you use a singular, whereas, like religions, there are many "software-engineering" "disciplines". The use of the term "software engineering" to imply a degree of reliability not present in "programming" is totally bogus: engineering is not an exact art/science/whatever: buildings and bridges still fall down, car manufacturers still need product recalls, and aircraft, both fly-by-wire and traditional, still fall out of the sky. Dave.