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From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
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Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?
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i quick test for an idiot european is:

    env | egrep 'LANG|LC_'

if LANG !=3D C or LC_ALL !=3D C you have a prize idiot because they
are trusting the interesting instationaliZation (sic) done by americans.

doing that stuff is hard and lunix got it all wrong.

given that i'm feeling 'contrary':  why doesn't the installation process
ask you what sort of keyboard you have?

i can type qwerty, azerty and swedish qwerty but it really is a pain to
have to type qwerty on an azerty keyboard to get to the point where
i can type chars to build the kernel etc that i want.

the 'kbmap' stuff is trivial to install if you can type the chars on the
keyboard.
trying to install it when you don't have a qwerty keyboard, well it's les=
s than
pleasant.

it wouldn't be hard to add and it would make the system more open to
europeans.

i'd do it, mais j'ai d'autres chats =E0 foutter ...

and going back to being 'contrary' your setup had better look pretty much
like what they have at the labs.  this is a semi-criticism, because it's
1127-centric but (thank ...) it's not the 'army of programmers' ...