From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <012f01c17a25$dedeb340$a4b6c6d4@cybercable.fr> From: "Boyd Roberts" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200111302014.UAA07523@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [9fans] seemail/faces MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 06:06:00 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2e0d72ca-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > Why not, pray? Its use implies you've already got X11 and all the > gunk that goes with it. Xfaces, behemoth though it might be, just > sits in the corner and renders pixels. Big deal. Turn off all the > rubbish about audio, animation, shaped images and about half a > million image formats, and just display what's in your mailbox. > It's not as if you need to *interact* with it. These are exactly the reasons I do not want it. It's the emacs school of thought. I've suffered enough, putting up faces. faces/seemail is a much smaller, cooler piece of code. It also lets me test libXg, which could be productive for people who want to run plan 9 stuff on X11. This is user mode, not linux kernel, build it all in and then compress it. Simple is good. Simple works. Turkish: Did you understand one word of what he just said?