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From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [9fans] 9term echo-disabling fix (for ssh, vncviewer)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:52:48 +0200
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> Then, we must be careful to correctly deal with the case
> where we have [icanon and no echo] which is what
> ssh and vncviewer use when prompting for a password
> (shows up as: israw c- in the debug 9term output)

yup.  get _all_ the cases right.

> However, I'm the first to admit I know very little about termio(s).

well, it's a mess & i've spent far too much time fighting it.

ahh, turning off ICANON you then have to get VMIN and VTIME right iirc.

VMIN should be 1 and VTIME should be some default to mean infinite to get V7 style RAW mode (but that's not even strictly true).