* [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
@ 2004-06-14 9:08 David Eckhardt
2004-06-14 9:35 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-14 10:08 ` Kenji Okamoto
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Eckhardt @ 2004-06-14 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Can anybody suggest a couple of "modern" motherboard/processor/Ethernet
combinations which work well (and, if necessary, a corresponding
kernel-source date)? It's probably time to build an auth/file server
from parts for home. I'm interested in exploring the plausibility of
a mini-ITX system, though I'd want a case which would let me do the
removable-IDE-drive thing for backups.
Dave Eckhardt
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 9:08 [9fans] Recommended motherboards? David Eckhardt
@ 2004-06-14 9:35 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-14 18:06 ` jmk
2004-06-14 10:08 ` Kenji Okamoto
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Ellis @ 2004-06-14 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
jmk can, and does it well. sorry jim.
the dual athlon. but that's two yearrs
old advice.
brucee
David Eckhardt wrote:
> Can anybody suggest a couple of "modern" motherboard/processor/Ethernet
> combinations which work well (and, if necessary, a corresponding
> kernel-source date)? It's probably time to build an auth/file server
> from parts for home. I'm interested in exploring the plausibility of
> a mini-ITX system, though I'd want a case which would let me do the
> removable-IDE-drive thing for backups.
>
> Dave Eckhardt
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 9:08 [9fans] Recommended motherboards? David Eckhardt
2004-06-14 9:35 ` Bruce Ellis
@ 2004-06-14 10:08 ` Kenji Okamoto
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2004-06-14 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Can anybody suggest a couple of "modern" motherboard/processor/Ethernet
> combinations which work well (and, if necessary, a corresponding
> kernel-source date)?
I'm using BIOSTAR's P4TSV + Pen4 2.8GHz + 1GB memory for CPU
server. It has onboard rtl8139 ether chip.
I haven't check its graphic chip (865G) though.
Kenji
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 9:35 ` Bruce Ellis
@ 2004-06-14 18:06 ` jmk
2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-06-14 19:25 ` ron minnich
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From: jmk @ 2004-06-14 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
We've only bought 2 motherboards in the recent past, i.e. they're still available.
The first is a Biostar P4VTB. It has on-board VIA Rhine ethernet and serial-ATA chips.
There had problems with it at first, it would lock-up randomly into a state that even a
non-maskable interrupt couldn't disturb; it was traced to a chip-errata in the P4
which a BIOS update cured. As far as I know it works fine now. There are probably
a dozen other motherboards using the same components from different manufacturers.
The second is probably not what you're looking for, a Tyan S2882 dual-Opteron system.
I haven't had any problems with it so far.
Ron Minnich can probably advise on the good/bad points of what's available in the
mini-ITX format.
--jim
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 18:06 ` jmk
@ 2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-06-14 19:26 ` ron minnich
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2004-06-14 19:25 ` ron minnich
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From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2004-06-14 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> The second is probably not what you're looking for, a Tyan S2882 dual-Opteron system.
> I haven't had any problems with it so far.
You're running the Opteron in 32-bit mode, right? I can
(temporarily) lay my hands on a couple of Sun V20z Opteron systems and
a few HP DL145 boxes, but using them in legacy mode doesn't sound like
fun.
andrey
ps: they all have broadcom gige cards in them :(
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 18:06 ` jmk
2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2004-06-14 19:25 ` ron minnich
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From: ron minnich @ 2004-06-14 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> Ron Minnich can probably advise on the good/bad points of what's
> available in the mini-ITX format.
yeah, there's not much good if you want speed.
I still like the ituner m100 because of the front-removable CF card.
However those cards are slow.
The travela is almost as nice s the ituner and you can put a hard drive
in it. It is about $400.
We should really see if we can use the Hauppage MVP, which is a PPC box
for $99. We will need a current 4e port to PPC, however.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2004-06-14 19:26 ` ron minnich
2004-06-14 19:57 ` jmk
2004-06-14 19:27 ` ron minnich
2004-06-15 6:27 ` Philippe Anel
2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: ron minnich @ 2004-06-14 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> You're running the Opteron in 32-bit mode, right? I can (temporarily)
> lay my hands on a couple of Sun V20z Opteron systems and a few HP DL145
> boxes, but using them in legacy mode doesn't sound like fun.
for future, try to get Tyan boards with the eepro. Coming soon.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-06-14 19:26 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-06-14 19:27 ` ron minnich
2004-06-14 20:00 ` jmk
2004-06-15 6:27 ` Philippe Anel
2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: ron minnich @ 2004-06-14 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
warning on the broadcom tg3 part: I just fixed a problem here on an Arima
HDAMA by turning OFF checksum offloading.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 19:26 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-06-14 19:57 ` jmk
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: jmk @ 2004-06-14 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Mon Jun 14 15:27:16 EDT 2004, rminnich@lanl.gov wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
>
> > You're running the Opteron in 32-bit mode, right? I can (temporarily)
> > lay my hands on a couple of Sun V20z Opteron systems and a few HP DL145
> > boxes, but using them in legacy mode doesn't sound like fun.
>
> for future, try to get Tyan boards with the eepro. Coming soon.
>
> ron
As well as the 2 tg3 GbE interfaces, the S2882 has a 10/100 eepro on it
(Intel 82557 in our world). Interestingly, they decided to add that and
disable the AMD 10/100 contained in the south bridge. There is also a
cheaper Tyan board (S2875) that has an Intel GbE on-board rather than the
2 Broadcom 5704s (tg3).
Yes, running in 32-bit mode, 2 CPUs:
ella% pwd
/usr/jmk/9/pc
ethel% mk clean>/dev/null
ella% time mk>/dev/null
2.29u 1.61s 6.52r mk
ella% cat '#P'/cputype
Opteron 1791
ella%
while on the 2 CPU + hyperthreading P4:
ethel% pwd
/usr/jmk/9/pc
ethel% mk clean>/dev/null
ethel% time mk>/dev/null
5.00u 6.02s 7.11r mk
ethel% cat '#P/cputype'
P4 2197
ethel%
The P4 is on a GbE link to the fileserver, the Opteron is 100Mbs.
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 19:27 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-06-14 20:00 ` jmk
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From: jmk @ 2004-06-14 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Mon Jun 14 15:27:48 EDT 2004, rminnich@lanl.gov wrote:
> warning on the broadcom tg3 part: I just fixed a problem here on an Arima
> HDAMA by turning OFF checksum offloading.
>
> ron
The Tigon 2 (etherga620.c) had this problem with some versions of the firmware too,
if I remember correctly.
Anyone have programmer's manual for the tg3?
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 18:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-06-14 19:26 ` ron minnich
2004-06-14 19:27 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-06-15 6:27 ` Philippe Anel
2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Anel @ 2004-06-15 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
At 08:42 PM 6/14/2004, you wrote:
> > The second is probably not what you're looking for, a Tyan S2882
> dual-Opteron system.
> > I haven't had any problems with it so far.
>
>You're running the Opteron in 32-bit mode, right? I can
>(temporarily) lay my hands on a couple of Sun V20z Opteron systems and
>a few HP DL145 boxes, but using them in legacy mode doesn't sound like
>fun.
>
>andrey
>
>ps: they all have broadcom gige cards in them :(
I'm porting the freebsd broadcom driver to plan9.
Philippe,
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
2004-06-14 20:39 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-06-15 0:54 ` Kenji Okamoto
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2004-06-15 0:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> downside: needs a fan ....
Oh, Nooooo. Please no more noise in my room.☺
Kenji
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* Re: [9fans] Recommended motherboards?
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@ 2004-06-14 20:39 ` ron minnich
2004-06-15 0:54 ` Kenji Okamoto
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From: ron minnich @ 2004-06-14 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jason Gurtz; +Cc: 9fans
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Jason Gurtz wrote:
> Do you have any experiences with any of the "embedded" type Pentium-M
> powered boards? I would think those would be quite a bit speedier then
> the VIA offerings if they would prove to be compatible, especially if
> they supported the 2MB cache Dothen Pentium-M.
they're wonderful. Really really fast. Pentium-M just go fast fast fast.
we're trying to work out linuxbios now on them.
downside: hot, power hungry, needs a fan ....
ron
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