[9fans] inferno-list

[9fans] inferno-list

[hiro]

Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
I don't know whether it could be gmail's faults, tell me if I can help
in any way.


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Date: Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
To: 23hiro@gmail.com


This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    inferno-list@vitanuova.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for
further information about the cause of this error. The error that the
other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
match sender (state 15).

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you should look at cs(8)

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Ishwar
Rattan<ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu> wrote:
>
> Inferno running hosted under Windows.
>
> % ftpfs <ftphost>
> dial tcp!<ftphost>!ftp failed: non-numeric port number (connect
> <ftphost>!ftp)

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Date: Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM
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To: 23hiro@gmail.com


This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    inferno-list@vitanuova.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for
further information about the cause of this error. The error that the
other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
match sender (state 15).

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you should look at cs(8)

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Ishwar
Rattan<ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu> wrote:
>
> Inferno running hosted under Windows.
>
> % ftpfs <ftphost>
> dial tcp!<ftphost>!ftp failed: non-numeric port number (connect
> <ftphost>!ftp)

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Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[Michaelian Ennis]

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, hiro<23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
> I don't know whether it could be gmail's faults, tell me if I can help
> in any way.
>    inferno-list@vitanuova.com
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the

> other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
> match sender (state 15).

Seems to be fine for me @ gmail (now anyway).

Ian

Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[erik quanstrom]

> > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>
> > other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
> > match sender (state 15).
>
> Seems to be fine for me @ gmail (now anyway).

the headers seemed to be truncated.  if you were sending
mail as you@gmail.com from another domain, then you
are likely to be rejected.  this *is* a violation of google's
spf policy.

- erik

Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[hiro]

I wasn't doing anything special as far as I know. I was using the
normal web interface.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:54 PM, erik quanstrom<quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
>> > Technical details of permanent failure:
>> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>>
>> > other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
>> > match sender (state 15).
>>
>> Seems to be fine for me @ gmail (now anyway).
>
> the headers seemed to be truncated.  if you were sending
> mail as you@gmail.com from another domain, then you
> are likely to be rejected.  this *is* a violation of google's
> spf policy.
>
> - erik
>
>

Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[Uriel]

It is fine for some, it isn't for others.

uriel

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michaelian
Ennis<michaelian.ennis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, hiro<23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
>> I don't know whether it could be gmail's faults, tell me if I can help
>> in any way.
>>    inferno-list@vitanuova.com
>>
>> Technical details of permanent failure:
>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>
>> other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
>> match sender (state 15).
>
> Seems to be fine for me @ gmail (now anyway).
>
> Ian
>
>

Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[hiro]

And also for us it's still fine sometimes. One mail got through, but
something is definitely broken.
I'm not doing anything special...

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Uriel<uriel99@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is fine for some, it isn't for others.
>
> uriel
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michaelian
> Ennis<michaelian.ennis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, hiro<23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
>>> I don't know whether it could be gmail's faults, tell me if I can help
>>> in any way.
>>>    inferno-list@vitanuova.com
>>>
>>> Technical details of permanent failure:
>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>>
>>> other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 rejected: SPF record does not
>>> match sender (state 15).
>>
>> Seems to be fine for me @ gmail (now anyway).
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] inferno-list

[erik quanstrom]

On Wed Aug 26 18:24:52 EDT 2009, 23hiro@googlemail.com wrote:
> And also for us it's still fine sometimes. One mail got through, but
> something is definitely broken.
> I'm not doing anything special...

it's plenty possible that gmail is sending mail from servers
not listed in their spf list.  it's also very possible that their
full spf list does specify all the outbound servers, but they
exceeded the rfc-mandated limits on dns queries or the
length of the result and thus a conforming receiver could
drop mail.

if you have access to the full headers and can use upas/spf
(included in nupas), you can do the queries manually and
see what happens.  spf isn't hard to understand so you
should be able to piece together the correct result by hand
in ten minutes.

- erik