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From: "kim kubik" <chaotrope@jps.net>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] ugrading edition 2 graphics to edition 3
Date: Thu,  3 Aug 2000 16:43:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bffda4$a0a699c0$7cd2efd1@pkwksj.sjna.corp.dom> (raw)



-----Original Message-----
From: geoff@x.bell-labs.com <geoff@x.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [9fans] ugrading edition 2 graphics to edition 3


>There's reinvention and there's reimplementation, as advocated by
>forsyth in `more taste, less greed: sending Unix to the fat farm'
>(ftp://ftp.cs.york.ac.uk/papers/taste.ps.Z).  If the original wheel
>was square or triangular, it's well worth reimplementing it, and you
>usually learn something along the way.
>

I always assumed that title ("More Taste, Less Greed") was a takeoff
on a 1989 paper/talk by a D. Rosenthal (then at Sun I think) "More
Haste, Less Speed" where he says something like:

 "Six years ago the author was sharing a 1MIPS, 4Meg machine 
  with 60 users. At times it was irritatingly slow. Now he 
  has a 1.5MIPS, 4Meg machine all to himself. At times it is 
  irritatingly slow."

And then he asks "What Happened to All That Extra Power?"

Isn't this one of the basic ideas for p9, to have the terminal
server provide an essentially consistent response to user
interaction and the other processor hogs be 'down the wire'
and out of the way in terms of gobbling cpu cycles, which a
workstation has to juggle, especially when it has to go to
disk to process page faults. 



             reply	other threads:[~2000-08-03 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-03 23:43 kim kubik [this message]
2000-08-04  9:12 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-08-04 14:19   ` Andy Newman
2000-08-04 14:37     ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]       ` <20000805004518.A42947@juju.bsn>
     [not found]         ` <022101bffe66$90ac6640$03c684c3@psychobasketcase.org>
     [not found]           ` <20000805085453.A46136@juju.bsn>
2000-08-04 23:26             ` Boyd Roberts
2000-08-07  8:46               ` Alex Danilo
2000-08-07 13:41                 ` Andy Newman
2000-08-07 20:45                 ` Boyd Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-08-05  2:27 Anthony Sorace
2000-08-05  2:18 geoff
2000-08-04 17:02 nigel
2000-08-07  8:44 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-04  8:25 forsyth
2000-08-03 20:40 forsyth
2000-08-03 20:19 geoff
2000-08-04 16:19 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-04 17:06   ` Matt
2000-08-07  8:44     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-03 19:13 dhog
2000-08-02 20:33 Russ Cox
2000-08-02 16:53 Anthony Sorace
2000-08-02 14:45 rob pike
2000-08-03  8:20 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-08-03  8:44   ` Doug Henderson
2000-08-03  8:54     ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]       ` <boyd@noos.fr>
2000-09-11 15:41         ` Tom Duff
2000-08-02 13:23 Doug Henderson

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