From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "kim kubik" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] ugrading edition 2 graphics to edition 3 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:43:29 -0700 Message-ID: <01bffda4$a0a699c0$7cd2efd1@pkwksj.sjna.corp.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: f5eb1c36-eac8-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 -----Original Message----- From: geoff@x.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [9fans] ugrading edition 2 graphics to edition 3 >There's reinvention and there's reimplementation, as advocated by >forsyth in `more taste, less greed: sending Unix to the fat farm' >(ftp://ftp.cs.york.ac.uk/papers/taste.ps.Z). If the original wheel >was square or triangular, it's well worth reimplementing it, and you >usually learn something along the way. > I always assumed that title ("More Taste, Less Greed") was a takeoff on a 1989 paper/talk by a D. Rosenthal (then at Sun I think) "More Haste, Less Speed" where he says something like: "Six years ago the author was sharing a 1MIPS, 4Meg machine with 60 users. At times it was irritatingly slow. Now he has a 1.5MIPS, 4Meg machine all to himself. At times it is irritatingly slow." And then he asks "What Happened to All That Extra Power?" Isn't this one of the basic ideas for p9, to have the terminal server provide an essentially consistent response to user interaction and the other processor hogs be 'down the wire' and out of the way in terms of gobbling cpu cycles, which a workstation has to juggle, especially when it has to go to disk to process page faults.