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identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="smj@9p.sdf.org"; helo=9p; client-ip=205.166.94.15 Received: from 9p (9p.sdf.org [205.166.94.15]) by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for <9fans@9fans.net>; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:54:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from smj@9p.sdf.org) Message-ID: <0224A6C262397AEB56DB165B336F29C5@9p.sdf.org> To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] New to plan9 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:54:04 +0000 From: smj@9p.sdf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 25db96ae-2dd0-11ec-8d6b-b56dbfe57ee5 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNGU4OTg5ZWU0Mjk1MWZhMC1NNWVlNTg0Yzk2ZDk4YzU4Mjk0ZDIw?= =?UTF-8?B?NDE2Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M5ee584c96d98c58294d20416:1:uHaYRDghGLjTY9FZvwE1Gg53ps4baIqW8cjkIxk_GwU Quoth joseph turco : .... > CDs for bell labs). I was wondering about something, I've been having some > difficultly using the OS, using commands to do things and getting web > browsing to work with abaco (complains about no DNS). Is the OS assuming > you are proficent in Unix commands? I am not that experienced with > Unix/Linux commands, other than the odd cp or rm commands. I am glad the > man pages are available on the system, but it doesn't really point me in > the right direction on how to write commands, thus my question. I wonder = if > I'm missing a certain paper or guide. Sorry if am bothering anyone with > this question, and please excuse my ignorance ... Joseph, this is the sort of thing we've been helping folks out with in SDF with the Plan9 Boot Camps. Plan9 can be especially confusing to a new user if they have any amount of UNIX/Linux experience because they'll tend to expect Plan9 to behave more or less in a certain way. You' in a sort of flatlander mentality at that point and you're not alone. The quarterly Boot Camps are for beginner to intermediate Plan9 users and puts you in an environment with others where there are no "dumb" questions. It is easy for a seasoned Plan9 user to have forgotten those new experiences and I often get reminded of this, even as recently as yesterday when a new Plan9 user asked: "I get a grey screen and no response from mouse clicks. Am I logged in?". In the Boot Camp we go over basics like these including going into a little of the history of Plan9's origins in research UNIX.=20= =20 The key with Plan9 is that while, yes, you can run it stand alone, all by yourself, you'll learn much more if you're in an active community with=20 multi-nodes, many active users and a helpful community. In fact, many=20 folks who have started as beginners have continued on each quarter so=20 that they can help newusers and build activities. 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