Re: [9fans] problems with marshal

["Boyd Roberts" <boyd@planete.net>]

From: <rog@vitanuova.com>
> 
> the whole thing's a crock of shit, but if it's to be a working crock
> of shit i can't really see much alternative to converting utf8
> plain/text attachments to quoted-printable.
> 

it is a _very nasty_ problem indeed.

being in france i've had to deal with ISO Latin 1 for a long
time.  oh, god, how many arguments have i had over this.

> of course, then there's the issue of utf8 in header lines.  =?.....?=,
> rfc2047, aargh.

read that one too.

i had to do some corporate mail snooping so that's why
understand the horror of it all.  i understand the horror,
but not all of MIME.  it's 150 pages of pure trash.

saying it's 8bit doesn't really help 'cos it's a 7 bit
transport unless it's ESMTP _and_ the ESMTP implementation
returns 8BITMIME as one of the supported options (IIRC).

doesn't 7 bit come from the IMPs?

a long time ago i suggested to paul vixie just to add
a new SMTP command 'will you do 8 bit transport'?  if
the response was no the message would be returned.  this
was based on the assumption that all messages potentially
had 8 bit chars and no analysis of the message body.

he said that MIME would take care of all of that.  i
didn't agree.  even in '92 i think it was pretty safe
to say that most/all? transports were 8 bit.

i wanted to force people who had 7 bit transports to
chuck 'em, if such things still existed.