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From: "Don A. Bailey" <don.bailey@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 security
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:28:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02669859-3065-478A-AC9E-2C921976A745@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALj3Nd0nauMxLiUpioOB=7+j_Jt_u0Sn+_WTfBC=fzyHwBogAw@mail.gmail.com>

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Fwiw Plan 9’s code vase has indeed been audited. By me. Several exploitable bugs were found including a kernel exploit due to the env driver. I wrote a working PoC for it which is somewhere on the internet, but it’s quite old.

Much of the code hasn’t changed, and, I would suspect, is largely secure.

But you’re talking implementation security versus architectural security. In the case of IoT, Plan 9 does exceptional things to close the gaps that embedded systems supply its users, but it is nowhere near complete.

Notably, a trusted root environment needs to be added - which Plan 9 only slightly addresses. 

Best,
D

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Cyber Fonic <cyberfonic@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think OpenBSD will run on an ESP-32.  That is part of the problem with IoT, the nodes are made on the cheap and thus use the cheapest viable network capable device.
> 
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 00:54, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Cyber Fonic wrote:
>> > 
>> > It has been said : "The 'S' in IoT stands for security". If Plan9 can address that deficiency of the current state of the art for IoT devices, then it would be a worthwhile exercise.
>> 
>> Plan 9 may have a decent security model, but it's never been audited.  Auditing a codebase, even one as small as Plan 9's, is a lot of work.  Are you willing to make a start on it?
>> 
>> If you want something free and already audited, with more security features, (but perhaps not quite the same convenience,) look into OpenBSD.
>> 
>> -- 
>> I love that *Open*BSD is so *security*-focused!
>> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-20 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-26  6:37 [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs Cyber Fonic
2019-07-26 10:02 ` Rodrigo G. López
2019-07-26 10:30 ` Charles Forsyth
2019-07-26 12:04   ` Rodrigo G. López
2019-07-26 12:12   ` Cyber Fonic
2019-07-26 15:23   ` Charles Forsyth
2019-07-27  9:16     ` Anthony Martin
2019-07-27 11:10       ` Richard Miller
2019-07-27 16:29         ` Anthony Martin
2019-08-07  0:22   ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-07  8:07     ` Lucio De Re
2019-08-09 14:17   ` Bakul Shah
2019-08-09 14:50     ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-09 15:50       ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-09 21:34         ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-09 21:48           ` Shane Morris
2019-08-09 22:51           ` Bakul Shah
2019-08-09 22:53           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-08-10  9:09             ` Cyber Fonic
2019-08-10  9:15               ` Shane Morris
2019-08-10 16:18               ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-11 18:59                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2019-08-18 14:10                 ` Charles Forsyth
2019-08-18 14:28                   ` Richard Miller
2019-08-19 11:51                   ` Cyber Fonic
2019-08-19 14:52                     ` [9fans] Plan 9 security Ethan Gardener
2019-08-20 13:13                       ` Cyber Fonic
2019-08-20 13:28                         ` Don A. Bailey [this message]
2019-08-23 18:45                           ` Ethan Gardener
2019-08-23 19:41                             ` Don Bailey

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