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From: "David Butler" <gdb@dbSystems.com>
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Subject: Re: [9fans] java
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:24:37 -0500
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> > is currently anybody porting java?
>
> Well, if they are, let's get them to stop!

I started this once, a long time ago, and I have to
agree with Ron, it had to be stopped.

Java as a language is not all bad. But, for Java to
be useful to those that *know how to program in
Java*, requires the class libraries, including the ones
that support the computing environment and networking.
This is the VERY BAD part. Java virtualizes a POSIX
"computer" with "socket" networking. Why would one
want this anywhere near Plan 9? I thought of ripping
that stuff out and replacing it with the Plan 9 equivalents,
but then it would not be "Pure Java" and would be unusable.

Linux is the perfect platform for Java.

If you want the network language type thing that
Java promises (but hasn't delivered), then you want
Limbo and Inferno from www.vitanuova.com.

David