From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <04adc5d4539eb45ef7c2348b79782a92@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:23:15 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: f4cf7204-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Atmel makes a reasonable chip and its also available in card form. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 20:12:01 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 20:11:58 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D311919BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8681919ADA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68DB519BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 868F119ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17655117 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Message-ID: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:09:15 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) at some point when the bank [french] were talking about doing X.509 stuff and random things with their clients i suggested they stuck the certs on a chip/smart card (the things being rampant in france since a govt decree in 1991) and jamming it into a reader. when it dies it's dead and then you use some other channel to renew it. it's quasi private key, but not quite. RSA is a good idea. another guy i sort of worked with told me back in '98 that you could get quasi decent DES out of a chip card and RSA wasn't that far off. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa--