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[Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks] Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:01:44 -0800 References: <9fe838ef-f8d1-474d-8fb1-61423e94b77a@posixcafe.org> <06D0611F-6792-43D7-AEFF-30BE2A442A5A@gmail.com> To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <06D0611F-6792-43D7-AEFF-30BE2A442A5A@gmail.com> Message-Id: <05C9E276-7263-45BF-B82D-432FCFCAB3DB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 87dc2dc2-bbe6-11ee-8cca-bb4d028c7b06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNDJmMTFlMDI2NWJjZmExOC1NNWUyMDQ1NjU1YmUxZmZjZjU4ZGQ2?= =?UTF-8?B?ZjBhPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M5e2045655be1ffcf58dd6f0a:1:e8l5rSA3wwj6vRS4IS4vYSIYaAUz4KcuDPf7B3o9Glw How you react to being told that you are behaving poorly, and it=E2=80=99s = neither appreciated or respected, speaks volumes. It=E2=80=99s telling, as = you say, that your take is to get defensive and, honestly, shitty. Emotiona= l maturity may be lacking in general on the list but please do not posture = from some imagined moral high ground. It=E2=80=99s so tiring, just do bette= r. > On Jan 25, 2024, at 15:38, Don A. Bailey wrote: >=20 > It=E2=80=99s telling that you see a difference of opinion as a temper tan= trum. A major problem with people=E2=80=99s perspective of 9front and the c= urrent plan 9 community, honestly.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 25, 2024, at 6:35=E2=80=AFPM, Jacob Moody w= rote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFOn 1/25/24 16:03, Don A. Bailey wrote: >>> I=E2=80=99m aware you=E2=80=99re a member of the foundation. >>>=20 >>> What I want I think I=E2=80=99ve made clear. I do not want to see a for= mal release of Plan 9 that includes anything from the 9front project. I do = not want 9front merged with what I tongue-in-cheek term =E2=80=9Cmainline= =E2=80=9D (9legacy / 9pio updated patch sets). 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