From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <05c301c3ecf4$f0e23dc0$67844051@SOMA> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] nice hardware for a cpu server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 22:05:22 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: cfa00e16-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > This is the same kind of argument we used to have as Unix people with > non-Unix people. The VMS and VM and MPE and RSX and MCP guys could always > argue, shown something in Unix, that they could do the same thing in their > OS given time and effort. They never quite got that the whole point was > that you didn't need to do anything extra at all in Unix; it was the > system as a whole that mattered, not this or that feature. They focused on > the branches and missed the forest. yup i had some big blue boys telling me that with CICS (iirc) you could serach and then _select by hand_ what you wanted. i couldn't convince them that grep was infinitely better. another day piers needed a number and we had this thing called 'ring'. more big blue boys and when he got the number in < 1 second (on a VAX 11/780) they remarked: what sort of RDB is that!!? err, grep on a flat file.