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Wed, 10 May 2023 18:33:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <06F2895C5373B4789EEF42BB2F0B03EF@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net From: Romano Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 15:33:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Pobox-Relay-ID: B51CA43C-EF82-11ED-AB8F-B449C2D8090B-09620299!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: b947b04c-ef82-11ed-bf80-a2a46fa53cd6 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNmFlMzIyODExMmI1YzNiNC1NZmIxMGZiNjAxOWRjYzhhNjMwM2Iz?= =?UTF-8?B?YWYxPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: =?UTF-8?B?WzlmYW5zXSA=?= List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mfb10fb6019dcc8a6303b3af1:1:ZZV77zl7kSZcdnJfNBaU2cjv9pXLvIpxwYuScoY3U9c References: Subject: RUDP and/or others I know this is from a thread almost 8 years old on 9fans. I'm ignorant of why RUDP wasn't used in lieu of TCP for 9P connections. Anyone know the whys and wherefores (either technical, historical, or political)? I had read earlier that TCP was used in lieu of IL (another transport protocol developed for Plan 9) due to performance over long-distance connections. Did RUDP just not cut it in some other way for the needs of sending/receiving 9P messages? >From the description in ip(3), it seems to have the nice behavior of resuming communication when a machine reboots. Is it due to the middle boxes/firewalls that are present in present-day networks? ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6ae3228112b5c3b4-Mfb10f= b6019dcc8a6303b3af1 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription