RE: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

RE: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[Retzki, Sascha [Xplain]]

> I agree. This is an annoyance for me. I also wish rc would get *some*
> kind of history; if I want to re-run troff after making a change to a
> file, it's faster to type "!!" than to select the previous command,
> snarfing, pasting, clicking at the end of the line, and hitting enter.
> 

There is a command 'Send' in the Menu. Not that this is a
counter-argument, I am just pointing out things ;-)

RE: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[quanstro]

/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/rc.p9p.history.tar.bz2.
rc-history.tbz2 is the plan9 version and history.c is the plan 9 program
that replaces v10's =.  (you should use the version that comes with byron's
rc for unix.)

- erik

On Fri Jul  7 10:02:18 CDT 2006, sascha.retzki@xplain.de wrote:
> > I agree. This is an annoyance for me. I also wish rc would get *some*
> > kind of history; if I want to re-run troff after making a change to a
> > file, it's faster to type "!!" than to select the previous command,
> > snarfing, pasting, clicking at the end of the line, and hitting enter.
> >
>
> There is a command 'Send' in the Menu. Not that this is a
> counter-argument, I am just pointing out things ;-)

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[David Leimbach]

On 7/7/06, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com <jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer?  Ja!
> ...Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
>
> If you survived that, to repeat, where is the interesting Plan 9
> related traffic these days?
>

On the v9fs mailing list.

*runs away*

> On Fri Jul  7 15:53:46 EDT 2006, uriel@cat-v.org wrote:
> > Sieg Heil!
> >
> > > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> > >> Good morning.
> > >>
> > >> Am Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:18:40 -0600 schrieb Ronald G Minnich
> > >> <rminnich@lanl.gov>:
> > >>
> > >>>So, in the interests of furthering the secret plans of the SP9SSS, I
> > >>>have put the source to smacme in contrib/rminnich.
> > >>
> > >> SP9SSS is getting a joke of itself.
> > >
> > > uh, dude, that's the point.
> > >
> > > I guess humor just does not translate, or you have no sense of humor of
> > > which we are aware.
> >
> > The total lack of humorous (or otherwise) perception reigning in the SP9SSS
> > is the best joke of all.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > uriel - Führer der Dissident Plan 9 IRC Kids
> >
> >
> > P.S.: Ph34r our S3cr3t World Domination Plan IX.
>

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[Brantley Coile]

> OK, I'll bite for the 2nd time today - where's the useful traffic?

It's a lot better than what's on TV.

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[jmk]

On Fri Jul  7 12:28:09 EDT 2006, uriel@cat-v.org wrote:
> ...
> Various ways of doing this have been posted to 9fans back when the
> list actually had some useful traffic.  My favorites are russ' " and
> ...

OK, I'll bite for the 2nd time today - where's the useful traffic?

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[uriel]

> fn !! {
> 	whatever you like
> }
>
> although i tend to use x (say) rather than !!
> normally i used send, but the above is easier when moving between
> several windows and acme for one task

Various ways of doing this have been posted to 9fans back when the
list actually had some useful traffic.  My favorites are russ' " and
"" that can be found in /n/sources/contrib/rsc/scripts/ Many other
useful bits can be found in russ's contrib dir, I find g and Clean
particularly handy.

And for those that need a way to go to the previous or next line with
the keyboard, ^A+Left and ^E+Right do just that.

uriel

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[C H Forsyth]

fn !! {
	whatever you like
}

although i tend to use x (say) rather than !!
normally i used send, but the above is easier when moving between
several windows and acme for one task

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[John Floren]

On 7/7/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/7/06, Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> > David Leimbach wrote:
> > > LOL, totally knew he'd show up if I said that :-)
> > >
> > > Hi Rob, don't worry I was kidding.
> > >
> >
> > yeah, but, like it or not folks, people want it, so I went ahead and did
> > it.
> >
> > It's not called smacme for nothing.
> >
> > ron
> >
>
> I was only kidding about the snarf buffer stuff... :-)  I have often
> needed to navigate up or down one line at a time and didn't want to
> grab the mouse to do so.
>
> It's a text editor, I'm going to type "eventually", why move my hand
> really far away from the place where I do that to move up or down one
> line?
I agree. This is an annoyance for me. I also wish rc would get *some*
kind of history; if I want to re-run troff after making a change to a
file, it's faster to type "!!" than to select the previous command,
snarfing, pasting, clicking at the end of the line, and hitting enter.

> The same argument holds for why pointing and clicking the mouse 30
> lines down is faster than hitting down 30 times so I don't see that as
> a violation of the spirit of what Acme is supposed to be very good at.
>
> The original author may disagree with me.
>
> The snarf comment was just an attempt to get "smacked" ;-).  The fact
> that I have mouse chording alone means that this feature would have
> been duplicate and probably not as good as what's already there.
I wouldn't mind a shortcut to paste. When snarfing, the hand is
already on the mouse anyway, but if I want to paste multiple times
over time, I'd like to do it with hands on the keyboard.

> Dave
>


--
TANSTAAFL! (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!)

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[David Leimbach]

On 7/7/06, Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> David Leimbach wrote:
> > LOL, totally knew he'd show up if I said that :-)
> >
> > Hi Rob, don't worry I was kidding.
> >
>
> yeah, but, like it or not folks, people want it, so I went ahead and did
> it.
>
> It's not called smacme for nothing.
>
> ron
>

I was only kidding about the snarf buffer stuff... :-)  I have often
needed to navigate up or down one line at a time and didn't want to
grab the mouse to do so.

It's a text editor, I'm going to type "eventually", why move my hand
really far away from the place where I do that to move up or down one
line?

The same argument holds for why pointing and clicking the mouse 30
lines down is faster than hitting down 30 times so I don't see that as
a violation of the spirit of what Acme is supposed to be very good at.

The original author may disagree with me.

The snarf comment was just an attempt to get "smacked" ;-).  The fact
that I have mouse chording alone means that this feature would have
been duplicate and probably not as good as what's already there.

Dave

Re: Re: [9fans] release -1 of smacme

[Rob Pike]

You've lost your way.

-rob


On 7/6/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/6/06, Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> > OK, people actually want this damned thing.
> >
> > So, in the interests of furthering the secret plans of the SP9SSS, I
> > have put the source to smacme in contrib/rminnich.
> >
> > It's called smacme because I expect to have to say: 'don't smacme!' when
> > I tell people about it. Plus, emacs had one more letter than acme, and
> > used 5 letters, so now we have evened up the score. 6 letters, 5
> > different letters.
> >
> > What it is: well, just build and start it up, then type stuff like ^D
> > and ^P and ^N and ^K. What are all the commands? That's secret.
> >
> > You don't like it, don't use it. You like it, well, then add more stuff
> > to it as you see fit, and let me know.
> >
> > Bugs? But of course.
> >
> > ron
> >
>
> Neat... tempted to make ^K stuff into /dev/snarf... and have ^Y read
> from /dev/snarf
>