From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <086f4496e85bfab0a28a5c19dad17554@quanstro.net> From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:30:29 -0500 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: <49ADF30D.4070904@orcasystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] threads vs forks Topicbox-Message-UUID: af10dc7c-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I think the reason why you didn't see parallelism come out earlier in > the PC market was because they needed to create new mechanisms for I/O. > AMD did this with Hypertransport, and I've seen 32-core (8-socket) > systems with this. Now Intel has their own I/O rethink out there. i think what you're saying is equivalent to saying (in terms i understand) that memory bandwidth was so bad that a second processor couldn't do much work. but i haven't found this to be the case. even the highly constrained pentium 4 gets some milage out of hyperthreading for the tests i've run. the intel 5000-series still use a fsb. and they seem to scale well from 1 to 4 cores. are there benchmarks that show otherwise similar hypertransport systems trouncing intel in multithreaded performance? i don't recall seeing anything more than a moderate (15-20%) advantage. - erik