From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:13:58 +0100 From: Eris Discordia To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <08A07EB09C42F5CD7DE54E9C@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0689c3e8-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > this leads to the conclusion that google is different from knowledge. No. It leads to a more meaningful conclusion. Namely, that a 9person will=20 not learn another language, Arabic in this case, even by living in another=20 country, in this case the KSA. And that there are better sources for copycatting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Salamu_Alaykum "Virtually all Arabic speakers today, especially those in the Middle East=20 omit the initial 'As' and pronounce the word as 'Salamu Alaykum.'" Which is still incomparable to the first hand knowledge of Arabic grammar=20 that tells you in Arabic the subject in a predicative sentence takes the=20 "tanveen/tanween" corresponding to the short vowel "damma," i.e. "damma" = (=3D=20 =D9=8F) turns to "dammatan" (=3D =D9=8C). Oh, and I do remember you pontificating about how "text" editors shouldn't=20 get involved in ligature, diacritics, vowel placement, and the like. Go=20 tell that to "=D8=B9=D8=A8=D8=AF=D8=A7=D9=84=D9=84=D9=87 =D8=A8=D9=86 = =D8=B9=D8=A8=D8=AF=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=B9=D8=B2=DB=8C=D8=B2 =D8=A2=D9=84 = =D8=B3=D8=B9=D9=88=D8=AF". The=20 Unicode Consortium tried hard to satisfy him--his money, in fact. --On Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:20 AM -0400 erik quanstrom=20 wrote: >> Small correction, it is actually " =D8=A7=D9=84 =D8=B3=D9=84=D8=A7=D9=85 = " , or "As-Salaam" (the >> L in AL elides with "shams" letters). It would also be inappropriate for >> you to receive such a greeting, which is a du'a reserved for muslims >> only. Since you are using the name "Eris, is the name of a "deity", it >> is safe to assume you are not a muslim. :) It is also "As-salaamu", >> there is a "damma" or "u" vowel atop then meem in "salaam". >> >> "marhaban" is a more appropriate greeting in this case. >> > > this leads to the conclusion that google is different from knowledge. > > - erik >