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From: Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:45:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08eaba278d7e19b8cf1a834e055baace@coraid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41765BC0.4040801@9fs.org>

Since this seems to be the hot-thread-of-the-month, and it has nothing
to do with patents, unlike what I imagine is going on on other mailing
lists talking about Rob's interview, I'll have to chime in with my own
view of dubious value.

Rob seems to me to have beens speaking pragmaticly.  By that I mean he
was observing the current situation in his environment.  I assume that
is mostly Linux and such.  I don't think he was speaking universally,
and meant to imply that you can simulate one OS on ANY kernel.  So, if
we assume he meant on the current Linux kernels, Russ is demonstrating
whether Rob is correct or not.

Personally, I've run Cygwin and, years ago, sam, 9term, and 9wm.  As
soon as possible I installed real Plan 9.  I've done similar several
times, and I have always found the simulated environments lacking in
some way.  I'm not smart enough to know why, or I'm too lazy to give
it a lot of thought.  It just seemed different in many ways and I
always came back to real Plan 9.

But, on the other hand, Inferno seems to be the same on any systems,
and Oberon was the same whether I ran it natively, on Windows or the Mac.
(They were actually different but only because the different
versions were also different releases of Oberon.)

 Brantley



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-20 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-05 17:36 andrey mirtchovski
2004-10-06  1:07 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-06  1:25   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-10-06  5:25     ` geoff
2004-10-06  7:52   ` C H Forsyth
2004-10-18 16:05     ` Leo Caves
2004-10-19  2:50       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-19 15:44         ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 15:57           ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-19 19:45             ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-19 21:22               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 22:47                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-10-19 23:39                   ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20  3:25                 ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-20  9:46                   ` Steve Simon
2004-10-20 14:20                     ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20 19:47                   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:29                     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:41                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-21  1:31                     ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-21 16:19                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 23:17               ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20  4:01                 ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-20  4:19                   ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20  4:27                     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-20  6:23                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-10-20  7:36                       ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 11:20                         ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 12:36                           ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 13:45                             ` Brantley Coile [this message]
2004-10-24  5:33                               ` Dan Cross
2004-10-24 11:53                                 ` Tiit Lankots
2004-10-24 13:44                                   ` Brantley Coile
2004-10-25 11:23                                     ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 17:06                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-10-22  7:12                           ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-22 19:02                             ` Jason Gurtz
2004-10-23  1:27                               ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 18:40                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-20 20:16                           ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 20:46                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-20 19:59                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:02                         ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20 20:05                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2004-10-20 20:25                           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-10-20 20:48                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-21 18:36                             ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-21  4:47                           ` William Josephson
2004-10-20 20:44                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-23 18:54                           ` Dan Cross
2004-10-20 11:13                     ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 11:09                   ` Dave Lukes

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