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Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting
From: Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:45:56 -0400
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Since this seems to be the hot-thread-of-the-month, and it has nothing
to do with patents, unlike what I imagine is going on on other mailing
lists talking about Rob's interview, I'll have to chime in with my own
view of dubious value.

Rob seems to me to have beens speaking pragmaticly.  By that I mean he
was observing the current situation in his environment.  I assume that
is mostly Linux and such.  I don't think he was speaking universally,
and meant to imply that you can simulate one OS on ANY kernel.  So, if
we assume he meant on the current Linux kernels, Russ is demonstrating
whether Rob is correct or not.

Personally, I've run Cygwin and, years ago, sam, 9term, and 9wm.  As
soon as possible I installed real Plan 9.  I've done similar several
times, and I have always found the simulated environments lacking in
some way.  I'm not smart enough to know why, or I'm too lazy to give
it a lot of thought.  It just seemed different in many ways and I
always came back to real Plan 9.

But, on the other hand, Inferno seems to be the same on any systems,
and Oberon was the same whether I ran it natively, on Windows or the Mac.
(They were actually different but only because the different
versions were also different releases of Oberon.)

 Brantley