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From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] c++
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:51:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0EC819B8-4267-43DA-81C9-2E530CDFB153@bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f491df4be06ee028571d96c2dd4e0dde@proxima.alt.za>

On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:06 AM, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:

>> Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I think the big
>> problems in the world have little to do with programming languages,
>> particularly c++, which is the topic at hand.
>
> Well, in the unequal world of long-post-apartheid rural South Africa
> where I live, my hope is to teach unspoilt, but also uneducated kids
> programming using Go on a Plan 9 platform (the teaching, mostly).
> Doing the same in C++ or Java would demand much more effort on my part
> and much more powerful resources than I have at my disposal.
> Eventually, we may get over these obstacles, but by then I'm hoping
> the ability to solve problems using Go will already be an asset for
> the kids.

Linux + python seems to be succeeding in the raspberryPi world.
Then there are things like MIT Scratch which is even easier for kids.
In the end what matters is developing thinking/problem solving skills.
Simpler languages allow to focus on problem solving.

Also, many uneducated or less educated kids have problems with
more basic skills of math etc. Hopefully inexpensive tablets can be
used to develop proficiency in such subjects (very few good teachers
in the kind of places you mention). A friend is developing such
web/tablet based lessons for similar kids in India (India has as big a
problem of poor ed. as the whole of Africa).




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-22 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19 22:48 steve
2012-11-20  1:37 ` Jeff Sickel
2012-11-20  2:08   ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-20 10:12     ` Steve Simon
2012-11-22  9:54       ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-22 10:07         ` lucio
2012-11-22 10:21           ` Nemo
2012-11-22 15:37             ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:19               ` Nemo
2012-11-22 16:31                 ` lucio
2012-11-25  6:09                   ` David Leimbach
2012-11-22 10:39           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 10:18         ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2012-11-22 11:34         ` hiro
2012-11-22 11:57           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 14:25             ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 13:13           ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 13:48             ` hiro
2012-11-22 14:22               ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:38                 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 14:47                   ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:54                     ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 15:47                       ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 16:00                         ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 16:11                           ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 16:15                           ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:31                             ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 17:30                               ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:18                           ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 16:06                       ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:07                         ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 16:12                         ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 16:25                           ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:51                         ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2012-11-22 17:16                           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 17:39                           ` lucio
2012-11-22 17:51                             ` Paul Lalonde
2012-11-22 17:53                               ` hiro
2012-11-22 18:13                                 ` lucio
2012-11-22 18:00                               ` lucio
2012-12-03 13:43                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-12-03 14:13                         ` Charles Forsyth
2012-12-03 14:58                           ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-03 15:21                             ` Charles Forsyth
2012-12-03 15:29                               ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-04 21:36                                 ` hiro
2012-11-22 16:58                     ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 22:25                       ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:54                   ` dexen deVries
2012-11-22 17:04                     ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:31                       ` hiro
2012-11-22 17:45                         ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:46                         ` lucio
2012-11-22 20:17                           ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-22 17:42                       ` lucio
2012-11-22 17:44                         ` hiro
2012-11-22 17:47                           ` lucio
2012-11-22 19:55                             ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-23  3:31                               ` lucio
2012-11-23  3:56                                 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 17:50                         ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:59                           ` lucio
2012-11-22 18:02                             ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 18:12                               ` lucio
2012-11-22 19:15                                 ` Richard Miller
2012-11-22 21:48                                 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 21:34                               ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 16:15                   ` Christopher Nielsen
2012-11-22 17:10                   ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 17:18                     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 17:22                       ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 17:27                         ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 17:45                     ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 19:55                       ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-23  9:42                     ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-22 17:58                   ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:32                 ` Richard Miller
2012-11-22 17:39                   ` hiro
2012-11-22 20:14                   ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-22 15:50           ` lucio
2012-11-22 14:54         ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 17:40       ` Pavel Klinkovsky
2012-11-22 18:11         ` tlaronde
2012-11-20 19:58     ` Wes Kussmaul
2012-11-20 20:07       ` tlaronde
2012-11-20 20:17         ` Wes Kussmaul
2012-11-22 12:58         ` Pedro Lamarão
2012-11-20 19:05 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-20 20:31   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2012-11-20 20:09 ` dexen deVries
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-24  1:45 [9fans] C++ Winston Kodogo
2012-11-22 22:32 Winston Kodogo
2012-11-23  3:04 ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-11-23  9:47 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-11-23 10:21   ` dexen deVries
2012-11-23 13:28     ` Pedro Lamarão
2012-11-23 14:02       ` lucio
2012-11-25  6:03         ` David Leimbach
2012-11-27 17:09     ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2012-11-27 19:57       ` David Leimbach
2012-11-27 20:15         ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-03 10:02 ` faif
2012-11-19  9:59 [9fans] c++ Steve Simon
2012-11-19 10:10 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2012-11-19 11:31   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-11-19 10:45 ` iainws
2012-11-19 12:17 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-19 12:46   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-11-19 12:55     ` hiro
2012-11-19 13:22   ` cinap_lenrek
2012-11-19 14:58     ` tlaronde
2012-11-19 15:17       ` Bence Fábián
2012-11-19 14:25 ` Robert Raschke
2012-11-19 14:56 ` Calvin Morrison
2012-11-19 14:09   ` cinap_lenrek
2012-11-19 15:38     ` Bence Fábián
2012-11-19 16:45       ` Jeff Sickel
2012-11-19 15:10   ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 14:10     ` David Leimbach
2012-11-22 14:13       ` David Leimbach
2012-11-19 16:21 ` Andrés Domínguez
2012-11-19 20:02 ` Aharon Robbins
2012-11-20  2:24 ` Taj Khattra
2012-11-20  3:47   ` Bruce Ellis

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