From: Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Ruby port
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:12:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0F2096E1-510E-44A4-AC46-AAE91D62FE36@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13426df10711141322t3eb56f10uea8cba2b23f45f03@mail.gmail.com>
On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:22 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 11:25 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
>
>> a good percentage of the stuff configured is not required. configure
>> spends a lot of energy looking for spiffy optimizations that can
>> safely
>> be skipped.
Configure also screws us up when it's needed. Especially when I'm
having problems compiling software because I'm missing a library I
don't want to take the time to install! DON'T DYNAMICALLY LINK. Good
thing Plan 9 don't (as far as I know).
It also introduces a complication. How automated is autotools when
you have this: see /n/sources/contrib/pietro/Autotools.png
It's how autotools works. The circles are programs you run to get a
configure file! It should be called a portability nightmare!
And how about this in the category of pointless:
Checking for C compiler...
Is that even necessary? Do you think someone compiling a program
written in C would have a C compiler on them? Oh, and when you find
out it's gcc, why does it go on to check whether or not it has
specific flags and header files - especially standard header files,
because I don't think you would need to ensure you have standard
header files anyway anymore because everyone who uses anything made
after 1990 (pretty much 99.024% of the population) use Standard C?
Why not just assume those flags and headers are there?
I once tried to contribute to AbiWord. But Compilation using
autotools held me back. And then I discovered troff, and that's what
I'm using from now on (although I might make a mm to AbiWord
converter one day). Oh how the mighty GNU have fallen.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-15 23:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-11 20:44 [9fans] " Christopher Nielsen
2007-11-11 20:54 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-12 5:28 ` ron minnich
2007-11-12 14:19 ` David Leimbach
2007-11-12 15:40 ` [9fans] " prem
2007-11-12 19:01 ` ron minnich
2007-11-12 19:39 ` Steve Simon
2007-11-12 21:39 ` Aki Nyrhinen
2007-11-12 22:39 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-12 23:21 ` Steve Simon
2007-11-12 23:32 ` William Josephson
2007-11-12 23:55 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-12 23:52 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-13 0:00 ` William K. Josephson
2007-11-13 0:53 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-11-13 0:57 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-13 1:32 ` [9fans] Re: Ruby port ( off topic ) fernanbolando
2007-11-14 21:50 ` [9fans] Re: Ruby port y i y u s
2007-11-13 0:27 ` Aki Nyrhinen
2007-11-13 0:33 ` David Leimbach
2007-11-13 0:35 ` Aki Nyrhinen
2007-11-13 0:50 ` [9fans] Fortran Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-11-13 0:52 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 1:08 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-11-13 1:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-13 1:48 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 1:12 ` [9fans] Money, guns, and lawyers Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-11-13 1:41 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 1:59 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-11-13 2:02 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-14 16:55 ` [9fans] Fortran plan9
2007-11-14 17:05 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-14 19:45 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-14 20:04 ` Uriel
2007-11-14 20:09 ` William K. Josephson
2007-11-13 0:59 ` [9fans] Re: Ruby port Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-11-13 1:23 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2007-11-13 1:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-14 19:05 ` ron minnich
2007-11-14 19:14 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2007-11-14 19:19 ` ron minnich
2007-11-14 19:25 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-14 19:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-14 20:43 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-11-14 21:15 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-14 21:22 ` ron minnich
2007-11-14 23:04 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-15 23:12 ` Pietro Gagliardi [this message]
2007-11-14 19:36 ` Bakul Shah
2007-11-14 19:45 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2007-11-14 20:16 ` Bakul Shah
2007-11-14 21:00 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2007-11-14 21:12 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-14 23:12 ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-14 19:37 ` Federico G. Benavento
2007-11-18 3:32 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-11-18 23:28 ` Federico G. Benavento
2007-12-02 22:55 ` [9fans] " Kim Shrier
2007-12-02 23:12 ` Federico G. Benavento
2007-12-03 5:11 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-12-03 5:13 ` lucio
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