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Subject: Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue
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> What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is
> a "club Plan-9".  Everything ever done by the originators of "club Plan-9"
> is correct, period.  No mater what exceptions, special cases, or good new
> ideas occur, they are wrong and we will find some way of rationalizing
> "club Plan-9".  Anyone can join "club Plan-9" if you buy into that
> assumption.  The main purpose of Plan-9 forks (with some exceptions) is to
> port to new hardware.  Messing with the premise of "club Plan-9" is
> significantly frowned upon and attacked.
>
> Just a newbie's (with 35 years experience) perception.

first things first.  breaking mk is not a good idea.  to see that things could
break with < rather than <= one only needs to consider a dependency that might
be modified more than once during a build.  for example fu.h that is modified
for a debug version built along a non-debug version.

perhaps there is some truth to this.  certainly plan 9 is not perfect.  and
certainly there are things you will improve.  but on the other hand, many
of us have quite a bit of experience, too.

- erik