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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@swtch.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] [OT] hypothetical questions
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:13:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f95e8adbafc27a663f7331cb59b97bc@swtch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <283f5df10603281052n683bb0c6hac604bcb27c59261@mail.gmail.com>

The existence of Minix certainly did play a role in Linus'
decision to start Linux, at least according to Tanenbaum
in the 3rd ed. of his OS textbook (no online ref; I flipped
through a copy yesterday), and according to Linus'
post reproduced at http://www.linux10.org/history/.
I'm sure there are plenty of other references too,
and Google can find them as well as 9fans can.

That's not the same as Tanenbaum playing an active role
in the creation of Linux itself, which he didn't.  I think that
was Sape's point, though I don't think it's what the original
post was trying to imply, especially given the earlier
comments about organizations inadvertently helping to
create other things.  (If Sun hadn't unbundled their
compilers, maybe gcc wouldn't have taken off.  Etc.)
If the Minix license had been different, maybe Linus
wouldn't have created a new system.  Too late now.

Sape raises an interesting and unanswerable question:
if there had been no Minix, would Linus have still been led
to create his own OS?  You'll have to build a time machine
to find out.

(This post is a futile attempt to snip this off-topic branch
at its root.  If nothing else at least it's tagged.)

Russ



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-28 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  0:40 [9fans] new compilers erik quanstrom
2006-03-28 17:52 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-28 18:15   ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-28 18:29     ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-28 18:52       ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 19:13         ` Russ Cox [this message]
2006-03-28 19:28           ` [9fans] [OT] hypothetical questions Brantley Coile
2006-03-28 20:26             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 21:18               ` Lou Kamenov
2006-03-29  6:14                 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-28 19:41           ` David Leimbach
2006-03-28 19:15         ` [9fans] new compilers Victor Nazarov
2006-03-28 19:22           ` [9fans] [OT] linus, the early years Charles Forsyth
2006-03-28 20:07             ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 16:33           ` [9fans] new compilers Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 16:49             ` [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not? Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 18:04               ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 18:45                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-03-29 19:41                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-03-29 23:27                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30  0:38                   ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:29                     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:40                       ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:55                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:13                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-30  4:26                         ` jmk
2006-03-30 16:08                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 16:02                       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 18:14                     ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30 12:46                   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 13:43                     ` Richard Miller
2006-03-30 13:49                       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-29 18:20               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-29 18:58                 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 23:16               ` lucio
2006-03-30  2:00                 ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-30  5:06                   ` lucio
2006-03-29 21:17             ` [9fans] new compilers Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-03-29 21:44               ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-04-02 18:17       ` Aharon Robbins
2006-04-02 18:33         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-02 19:47         ` lucio
2006-04-02 20:12           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-04-02 20:16             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  4:35               ` lucio
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` George Michaelson
2006-04-03  6:45                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  8:31                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  9:36                   ` uriel
2006-04-03 12:50                     ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-04-03  9:39                   ` lucio
2006-04-03 13:46                 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-03 14:30                 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-03 16:02                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-03 20:41                     ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-03 21:02                       ` uriel
2006-04-03 21:32                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 23:42                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  0:29                           ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-04  5:02                             ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  3:15                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  3:28                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  6:31                           ` David Leimbach
2006-04-04  4:21                         ` lucio
2006-04-05  1:00                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-05  4:35                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04 12:31                       ` rog
2006-04-03  3:17           ` plan9
2006-04-03  4:17             ` lucio

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