From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:19:12 +0000 From: Balwinder S Dheeman Message-ID: <0m9hc6xi2p.ln2@news.homelinux.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: , Subject: Re: [9fans] Acme column layout box and buttons Topicbox-Message-UUID: f3ee45e6-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 04/27/2009 06:23 PM, yy wrote: > 2009/4/27 Balwinder S Dheeman : >> That's a lot of good actions attached to all the three buttons for >> handling vertical layouts. How about adding similar actions to all the >> three buttons for managing horizontal layouts to a column /layout box/. >> > > I had a patched version of acme to do this. It is not such a trivial > thing as it looks like, but it is not difficult. However, it doesn't > work so good in practice as in theory. I found disturbing that after > pressing the right button the column was moved to the first place, and > doing it without moving the column was a mess because of the mouse > events (at the end I think I just moved the column to the first place > and then back to its previous position). Other problem I had was that > I didn't have very clear what to do with the middle button (taking the > maximum space and having small columns is not a practical thing). On > the other hands, growing columns with the left button is an easier > thing (once you decide all your heuristics). That's what I wished. Perhaps, it the heuristics which seems to harder and taken care of. Let us wait for a few more responses and, or ideas. > Anyway, it was my first look into acme code and there probably are > better ways to do it. > What did you have in mind? While editing code and, or other documents, I think, one mostly need to concentrate more on content or the column containing body of the code or text, hence maximizing a column with a single click seems in-line with the philosophy behind Acme. Whereas, Acme with the help of appropriate heuristics can open new window for related +Errors etcetera when needed in bottom half or quarter of the same column. Same is true for columns containing directory listings where one is looking for a file or directory. IMHO, better open the file in a new or other hidden column and un-hide it on a right click on file. Whereas, the the directories can be opened in bottom half of the same column. I think and hope that this or similar kinds of actions attached to all the three buttons for columns or horizontal layout management will improve the productivity of Acme users. -- Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman Registered Linux User: #229709 Anu'z Linux@HOME (Unix Shoppe) Machines: #168573, 170593, 259192 Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India Plan9, T2, Arch/Debian/FreeBSD/XP Home: http://cto.homelinux.net/~bsd/ Visit: http://counter.li.org/