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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:48:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <101ce9cb4e14907be1f9cd2519fe158e@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <488D35A2.5080806@gmail.com>

> > 2.  who does recursive queries on external interfaces?
> > i would have considerd this a configuration error and
> > security problem ten years ago.
> >
>
> Tell that to the rest of the internet.

without reasonable configuration, most any machine can
be made trivially vulnerable.

> vectors that are just as predictable because of the
> luxury of web2.0. Recursive queries obviously just
> make this simpler for the attacker.

what is this "web 2.0" of which you speak?  i use
plan 9 and unfamilar with such as i presume to be jargon.  ☺

to do it from the inside, one requires out-of-balliwick
hints to be cached, right?  this should be a big hurdle.

it's dissapointing to note that plan 9 dns does no hint
validation.  that is perhaps a larger long-known, and
still-exploitable hole than the one that gets so much press.

i think it would be best if ndb/dns simply did not reply
with answers obtained from glue but rather re-queried
the authorative ns *and* rejected out-of-balliwick
hints.

- erik




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <261342.6156.qm@web27004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
2008-07-27 13:18 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-27 15:56   ` Russ Cox
2008-07-27 15:57     ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-27 16:19       ` Russ Cox
2008-07-27 22:20         ` don bailey
2008-07-28  1:16           ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-28  2:53             ` a
2008-07-28  2:57             ` don bailey
2008-07-28  3:48               ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2008-07-28 20:53                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-07-27 22:22     ` don bailey

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