From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: g_patrickb@yahoo.com (G B) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 13:04:52 +0000 Subject: [9fans] 9front VMX References: <1055024213.127625.1536584692867.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1055024213.127625.1536584692867@mail.yahoo.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: e30518fe-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'm interested in trying to run OpenBSD using VMX on 9front.? Can someone give me an example of how I'd set this up and run it? % vmx -M 128 -n ether0 bsd Where "bsd" is the OpenBSD 6.2 kernel.? I must be missing more to it than just this?? Thanks for any help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:02:22 -0400 From: sl@9front.org To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: 1055024213.127625.1536584692867@mail.yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e2ef6c3e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 vmx(1) documentation in the dash1: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 script i use to run openbsd: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive installation. note: performance is terrible. sl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> In-Reply-To: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016af8b0575874bce" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e2f6cc7c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --00000000000016af8b0575874bce Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Very cool! On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM wrote: > vmx(1) documentation in the dash1: > > http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 > > script i use to run openbsd: > > http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd > > in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front > is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive > installation. > > note: performance is terrible. > > sl > > > --00000000000016af8b0575874bce Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very cool!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM <= sl@9front.org> wrote:
vmx(1)= documentation in the dash1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8= .7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/= rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl


--00000000000016af8b0575874bce-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:03:33 +0000 From: G B To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2998814_1154526258.1536599013959" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e2ffce44-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_2998814_1154526258.1536599013959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you. On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: =20 =20 Very cool! On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM wrote: vmx(1) documentation in the dash1: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 script i use to run openbsd: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive installation. note: performance is terrible. sl =20 ------=_Part_2998814_1154526258.1536599013959 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thank you.

On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:


Very cool!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM <sl@9front.org> wrote:
vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:

        http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

        http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl


------=_Part_2998814_1154526258.1536599013959-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Steve Simon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BC940CB9-5E89-4F89-A161-54C327B6CA5E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:57:29 +0100 Message-Id: <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e30a6bba-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --Apple-Mail-BC940CB9-5E89-4F89-A161-54C327B6CA5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo ta= lking to a framebuffer maybe? ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9... -Steve > On 10 Sep 2018, at 6:03 pm, G B wrote: >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >=20 >=20 > Very cool! >=20 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM wrote: > vmx(1) documentation in the dash1: >=20 > http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 >=20 > script i use to run openbsd: >=20 > http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd >=20 > in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front > is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive > installation. >=20 > note: performance is terrible. >=20 > sl >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-BC940CB9-5E89-4F89-A161-54C327B6CA5E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo talking to a framebuffer maybe?

ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9...

-Steve




On 10 Sep 2018, at 6:03 pm, G B <g_patrickb@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you.

On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:


Very cool!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM <sl@9front.org> wrote:
vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:

        http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

        http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl


--Apple-Mail-BC940CB9-5E89-4F89-A161-54C327B6CA5E-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 20:00:45 +0200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e3106164-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 yes to all 4 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:02:42 -0700 From: Kurt H Maier To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20180910180242.GA47840@wopr> References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e314a8fa-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote: > is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo talking to a framebuffer maybe? > > ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9... > > -Steve This is documented in the linked fqa section. http://fqa.9front.org/openbsdvmweb.png Note: when sl said performance is terrible, this is what he was talking about. khm From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:04:59 -0700 From: Ori Bernstein To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-Id: <20180910110459.2f5ddd2eccca3ec9db482179@eigenstate.org> In-Reply-To: <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e31951ca-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:57:29 +0100 Steve Simon wrote: > is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo talking to a framebuffer maybe? > > ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9... > > -Steve Chrome and Firefox work, if you're willing to wait as the screen repaints. -- Ori Bernstein From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> From: Dave MacFarlane Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:07:05 -0400 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e31e54ae-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I've always found performance to be terrible for OpenBSD even on physical hardware, so I can't really hold that against vmx.. - Dave From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> <332852034.2998815.1536599013960@mail.yahoo.com> <4B7EEB7A-5693-42F4-BE17-1CFA66FF0A69@quintile.net> <20180910180242.GA47840@wopr> In-Reply-To: <20180910180242.GA47840@wopr> From: Nick Owens Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e3231246-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 while we're on the subject, here's a half-assed script called 'inception' to boot your 9front kernel in a vmx instance on a terminal while sharing the host's fs. #!/bin/rc # inception rfork ne ramfs ip=`{ndb/query sys $sysname ip} aux/listen1 -t 'tcp!*!564' /bin/exportfs -r /root & cat >/tmp/plan9.ini << EOF user=$user fs=$ip auth=$ip mouseport=ps2 nobootprompt=tcp EOF vmx -v 800x600 -n ether0 -m /tmp/plan9.ini /amd64/9pc64 On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:05 AM Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote: > > is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo talking to a framebuffer maybe? > > > > ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9... > > > > -Steve > > > This is documented in the linked fqa section. > > http://fqa.9front.org/openbsdvmweb.png > > Note: when sl said performance is terrible, this is what he was talking > about. > > khm > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:09:59 -0400 From: sl@9front.org To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: CAG2UyHpdsMF1Yc6roOwGAVKZ_q4D--ShFiAxitnUTunvkPTipw@mail.gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e327eee2-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Yes, you get full graphics, but performance is terrible (the frame buffer is emulated entirely in software). You can run any browser, and everything works, but probably not fast enough for regular use. I have used Chromium in a pinch to login to Patreon, PayPal, etc. Gimp also works fine (if very, very slowly). I have used it to make edits to 9front propaganda. sl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <209F82E799F27552997B1A9C1B38E80A@ewsd.inri.net> In-Reply-To: From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bf03980575884573" Subject: Re: [9fans] 9front VMX Topicbox-Message-UUID: e32cf7c0-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000000000000bf03980575884573 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Also, Windows NT support! nice touch :) On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM Skip Tavakkolian < skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote: > Very cool! > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM wrote: > >> vmx(1) documentation in the dash1: >> >> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 >> >> script i use to run openbsd: >> >> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd >> >> in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front >> is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive >> installation. >> >> note: performance is terrible. >> >> sl >> >> >> --000000000000bf03980575884573 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also, Windows NT support! nice touch :)

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM Skip Tav= akkolian <skip.tavakkolian= @gmail.com> wrote:
Very cool!

On= Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM <sl@9front.org> wrote:
vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8= .7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/= rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl


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