From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <10C27F86D0A8497D95F75EA90D1F0DB7@T3400> From: "Philippe Anel" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> References: <20100223171241.GA28393@zoidberg.hsd1.mi.comcast.net><8510af2691d75524af15774bc176295e@yyc.orthanc.ca> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:41:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using? Topicbox-Message-UUID: da0ad9f4-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Thanks for this info Russ. Can you briefly tell us why you (Russ, Rob, Ken and Dave) no longer use Plan9 ? Because of missing apps or because of missing driver for your hardware ? And do you still use venti ? Phil; ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Cox" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using? The standard set up for a Plan 9 aficionado here seems to be a Mac or Linux machine running Plan 9 from User Space to get at sam, acme, and the other tools. Rob, Ken, Dave, and I use Macs as our desktop machines, but we're a bit of an exception. Most Google engineers use Linux machines, and I know of quite a few ex-Bell Labs people who are happy to be using sam or acme on those machines. My own setup is two screens. The first is a standard Mac desktop with non-Plan 9 apps and a handful of 9terms, and the second is a full-screen acme for getting work done. On Linux I do the same but the first screen is a Linux desktop running rio (formerly dhog's 8½). More broadly, every few months I tend to get an email from someone who is happy to have just discovered that sam is still maintained and available for modern systems. A lot of the time these are people who only used sam on Unix, never on Plan 9. The plan9port.tgz file was downloaded from 2,522 unique IP addresses in 2009, which I suspect is many more than Plan 9 itself. In that sense, it's really nice to see the tools getting a much wider exposure than they used to. I haven't logged into a real Plan 9 system in many years, but I use 9vx occasionally when I want to remind myself how a real Plan 9 tool worked. It's always nice to be back, however briefly. Russ