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(Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front) In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-ID: <11010.1715957902.1@lunacy.ugrad.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 10:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: <11011.1715957902@lunacy.ugrad.cs.cmu.edu> Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: eb385f4c-145d-11ef-9726-1281fb8b7b06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UZTA1MWYyMzBmMjY1NmJiYi1NZTVjYzU3NTUzNzM5NGQ3YTA4MDNm?= =?UTF-8?B?MmMwPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Me5cc575537394d7a0803f2c0:1:_mlLr9TACJX_tJGXuICA6zXb3d1O-qLONSL6UXiYH74 > I confirmed the model was trained on 9front resources, including > git history. I looked quickly at the document but didn't see a statement that it was machine-generated text or what the inputs were. Though "LLM ethics" are far from settled, I think at this stage it would be good to state clearly and prominently, up front, that this is machine-generated text, and to somewhere include information about which LLM was used, trained on what, and with what sort of prompt. As a separate matter, though I am not presently a 9front user, as I quickly skimmed the document it didn't seem clearly accurate. Is accuracy a goal? If so, how will it be determined whether or not that goal has been achieved? Dave Eckhardt ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te051f230f2656bbb-Me5cc5= 75537394d7a0803f2c0 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription