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From: "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <rvs@sun.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] current state of thread programming
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:50:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217418639.5036.31.camel@goose.sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080730113517.GA1853@polynum.com>

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:35 +0200, tlaronde@polynum.com wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:12:05PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote:
> >
> > It is slightly depressing to think that the situation has not really
> > changed since EWD wrote this in 1975.  It will take some young
> > whippersnapper of a Dijkstra or Hoare or Strachey or Iverson or Backus
> > to find the critical insight that will make reasoning about parallel
> > algorithm no more difficult than sequential ones.
>
> Is the human thought process parallel?

No. But to give you an example of why that shouldn't matter I would
like to note that the human thought is, in my opinion, finite. Yet,
we have developed very nice and efficient tools for comprehending and
reasoning about infinity.

> The most efficient is to have tools that match the way our brains work
> (or not...). I'm not convinced our brains are "parallel" (at least mines
> are not).

I disagree on philosophical grounds ;-) It's been one of the major
engineering follies to always approach design from a "just follow
the nature" standpoint. No wonder that before the Wright brothers
everybody thought the best way to fly is to flap some kind of wings.

Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. I guess, we are getting way off topic here.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-28 17:11 andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-28 17:50 ` tlaronde
2008-07-28 19:52   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-07-28 21:07     ` Russ Cox
2008-07-28 21:33       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-07-29 18:40   ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-29 19:12     ` Bakul Shah
2008-07-30 11:35       ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 11:50         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik [this message]
2008-07-30 13:50           ` Paweł Lasek
2008-07-30 17:42           ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 18:07           ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 18:17           ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-30 11:58         ` Robert Raschke
2008-07-30 13:53         ` David Leimbach
2008-07-30 14:00         ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-30 15:35           ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-30 16:53           ` Bakul Shah
2008-07-30 12:50 erik quanstrom
     [not found] <9b1933b61c606e89a4cbbc93a4b5a204@quanstro.net>
2008-07-30 17:31 ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 18:58   ` Sape Mullender
2008-07-30 20:04     ` tlaronde
2008-08-05 10:34 Richard Maxwell Underwood
2008-08-05 15:28 ` Eris Discordia

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