From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:15:21 -0800 From: "Roman V. Shaposhnik" In-reply-to: <9dee2ce1016edec584f40b6d2ea89bb7@quintile.net> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-id: <1232766921.22808.40.camel@goose.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <9dee2ce1016edec584f40b6d2ea89bb7@quintile.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 86192a0e-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 19:53 +0000, Steve Simon wrote: > > Fossil has always been a weak link, and probably will always be until > > somebody replaces it. There was some idea of replacing it with a > > version of ken's fs that uses a venti backend... > > > > Venti's rock solid design is the only thing that makes fossil > > minimally tolerable despite its usual tendency of stepping on its hair > > and falling on his face. > > Interesting, you have first hand experience of this? > > I have found fossil and venti to be a completely reliable combination, > running 24x7 on two machines for four years now. > > I have had three failures of fossil, all due to disks dying, and two > of those where my own fault (over cooling). You never know when end-to-end data consistency will start to really matter. Just the other day I attended the cloud conference where some Amazon EC2 customers were swapping stories of Amazon's networking "stack" malfunctioning and silently corrupting data that was written onto EBS. All of sudden, something like ZFS started to sound like a really good idea to them. Thanks, Roman.