From: Roman V Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] threads vs forks
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:47:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236365240.16176.2826.camel@work> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090303183836.2DE505B2E@mail.bitblocks.com>
Clojure is definitely something that I would like to play
with extensively. Looks very promising from the outset,
so the only question that I have is how does it feel
when used for substantial things.
Thanks,
Roman.
P.S. My belief in it was actually reaffirmed by a raving
endorsement it got from an old LISP community. Those
guys are a bit like 9fans, if you know what I mean ;-)
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 10:38 -0800, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:11:10 PST "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 07:19 -0800, David Leimbach wrote:
> >
> > > My knowledge on this subject is about 8 or 9 years old, so check with your
> > local Python guru....
> > >
> > >
> > > The last I'd heard about Python's threading is that it was cooperative
> > > only, and that you couldn't get real parallelism out of it. It serves
> > > as a means to organize your program in a concurrent manner.
> > >
> > >
> > > In other words no two threads run at the same time in Python, even if
> > > you're on a multi-core system, due to something they call a "Global
> > > Interpreter Lock".
> >
> > I believe GIL is as present in Python nowadays as ever. On a related
> > note: does anybody know any sane interpreted languages with a decent
> > threading model to go along? Stackless python is the only thing that
> > I'm familiar with in that department.
>
> Depend on what you mean by "sane interpreted language with a
> decent threading model" and what you want to do with it but
> check out www.clojure.org. Then there is Erlang. Its
> wikipedia entry has this to say:
> Although Erlang was designed to fill a niche and has
> remained an obscure language for most of its existence,
> it is experiencing a rapid increase in popularity due to
> increased demand for concurrent services, inferior models
> of concurrency in most mainstream programming languages,
> and its substantial libraries and documentation.[7][8]
> Well-known applications include Amazon SimpleDB,[9]
> Yahoo! Delicious,[10] and the Facebook Chat system.[11]
>
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-03 11:52 hugo rivera
2009-03-03 15:19 ` David Leimbach
2009-03-03 15:32 ` Uriel
2009-03-03 16:15 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-03 15:33 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-03 18:11 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-03-03 18:38 ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-06 18:47 ` Roman V Shaposhnik [this message]
2009-03-06 20:38 ` David Leimbach
2009-03-07 8:00 ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-07 0:21 ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-07 2:20 ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-03-03 23:08 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-03 23:15 ` Uriel
2009-03-03 23:23 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-03 23:54 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-04 0:33 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-04 0:54 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-04 1:54 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-04 3:18 ` James Tomaschke
2009-03-04 3:30 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-04 4:44 ` James Tomaschke
2009-03-04 5:05 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-04 5:50 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-04 6:08 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-04 16:52 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-04 17:14 ` ron minnich
2009-03-04 17:27 ` William Josephson
2009-03-04 18:15 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-05 3:32 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-05 3:39 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-05 3:55 ` William K. Josephson
2009-03-05 4:00 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-05 4:16 ` William K. Josephson
2009-03-07 3:01 ` William Josephson
2009-03-07 3:31 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 6:00 ` William Josephson
2009-03-07 13:58 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 14:37 ` William Josephson
2009-03-07 15:05 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 15:28 ` William K. Josephson
2009-03-07 5:00 ` lucio
2009-03-07 5:08 ` William Josephson
2009-03-07 5:19 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 5:45 ` [9fans] Flash William K. Josephson
2009-03-07 14:42 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 14:56 ` William Josephson
2009-03-07 15:39 ` Russ Cox
2009-03-07 16:34 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-07 5:24 ` [9fans] threads vs forks lucio
2009-03-04 5:19 ` David Leimbach
2009-03-04 2:47 ` John Barham
2009-03-04 5:24 ` blstuart
2009-03-04 5:37 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-04 16:29 ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-03-04 16:56 ` john
2009-03-06 9:39 ` maht
2009-03-04 5:07 ` David Leimbach
2009-03-04 5:35 ` John Barham
2009-03-03 16:00 ` ron minnich
2009-03-03 16:28 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-03 17:31 ` ron minnich
2009-03-03 16:47 ` John Barham
2009-03-04 9:37 ` Vincent Schut
2009-03-04 9:58 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-04 10:30 ` Vincent Schut
2009-03-04 10:45 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-04 11:15 ` Vincent Schut
2009-03-04 11:33 ` hugo rivera
2009-03-04 13:23 ` Uriel
2009-03-04 14:57 ` ron minnich
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