* [9fans] lions' commentary
@ 2001-01-11 23:30 Vincent D Murphy
2001-01-11 23:58 ` George Michaelson
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From: Vincent D Murphy @ 2001-01-11 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
anybody know where i can find it?
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
2001-01-11 23:30 [9fans] lions' commentary Vincent D Murphy
@ 2001-01-11 23:58 ` George Michaelson
2001-01-12 0:01 ` William K. Josephson
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From: George Michaelson @ 2001-01-11 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent D Murphy; +Cc: 9fans
i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX V6?
I'm reminded of the Jimi Hendrix lyrics as used in the film "Easy Rider"
"Now, if 6 turned up to be 9,
I don't mind, I don't mind."
-George
--
George Michaelson | DSTC Pty Ltd
Email: ggm@dstc.edu.au | University of Qld 4072
Phone: +61 7 3365 4310 | Australia
Fax: +61 7 3365 4311 | http://www.dstc.edu.au
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
2001-01-11 23:58 ` George Michaelson
@ 2001-01-12 0:01 ` William K. Josephson
2001-01-12 0:03 ` George Michaelson
2001-01-12 0:04 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-01-12 0:08 ` [9fans] " David Arnold
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From: William K. Josephson @ 2001-01-12 0:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: George Michaelson; +Cc: Vincent D Murphy, 9fans
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:58:01AM +1000, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
>
> We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX V6?
He wrote one on Plan 9 as well, however it is not distributed.
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
2001-01-12 0:01 ` William K. Josephson
@ 2001-01-12 0:03 ` George Michaelson
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From: George Michaelson @ 2001-01-12 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William K. Josephson; +Cc: Vincent D Murphy, 9fans
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:58:01AM +1000, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
>
> We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX V6?
He wrote one on Plan 9 as well, however it is not distributed.
I sit corrected. and the spirit of the Hendrix lyrics stands!
-George
--
George Michaelson | DSTC Pty Ltd
Email: ggm@dstc.edu.au | University of Qld 4072
Phone: +61 7 3365 4310 | Australia
Fax: +61 7 3365 4311 | http://www.dstc.edu.au
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
2001-01-11 23:58 ` George Michaelson
2001-01-12 0:01 ` William K. Josephson
@ 2001-01-12 0:04 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-01-12 11:49 ` [9fans] " Vincent D Murphy
2001-01-12 0:08 ` [9fans] " David Arnold
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From: Andrey A Mirtchovski @ 2001-01-12 0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
judging from previous postings on this list, lions did write a commentary on
a very old edition of p9... unfortunately this is extremely outdated..
if you are looking for a commentary on plan9, someone is spain has a very
good one which covers the latest release 3. just check past postings for it.
i am sure people in bell-labs will be able to give you more insight on
lions' old commentaries (both V6 and p9) though :)
andrey
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
>
> We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX V6?
>
> I'm reminded of the Jimi Hendrix lyrics as used in the film "Easy Rider"
>
> "Now, if 6 turned up to be 9,
> I don't mind, I don't mind."
>
> -George
> --
> George Michaelson | DSTC Pty Ltd
> Email: ggm@dstc.edu.au | University of Qld 4072
> Phone: +61 7 3365 4310 | Australia
> Fax: +61 7 3365 4311 | http://www.dstc.edu.au
>
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
2001-01-11 23:58 ` George Michaelson
2001-01-12 0:01 ` William K. Josephson
2001-01-12 0:04 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
@ 2001-01-12 0:08 ` David Arnold
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From: David Arnold @ 2001-01-12 0:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
-->"George" == George Michaelson <ggm@dstc.edu.au> writes:
George> i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
George> We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX
George> V6?
John Lions
"Lion's Commentary on Unix: With Source Code"
6th Edition, July 1996
Peer to Peer Communications
ISBN 1573980137
it's paperback, in a landscape format, and not too robust. i got mine
at a Usenix conference a while ago ...
d
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* [9fans] Re: lions' commentary
2001-01-12 0:04 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
@ 2001-01-12 11:49 ` Vincent D Murphy
[not found] ` <bqwae8wboh8.fsf@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>
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From: Vincent D Murphy @ 2001-01-12 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrey A Mirtchovski; +Cc: 9fans
= Andrey A Mirtchovski <aam396@mail.usask.ca> [20010112 0006]:
> if you are looking for a commentary on plan9, someone is spain has a very
> good one which covers the latest release 3. just check past postings for it.
i couldn't find this in any archives, however nemo@gsyc.escet.urjc.es
kindly mailed me a URL off-list. it is very good.
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* [9fans] Re: Re: lions' commentary
[not found] ` <bqwae8wboh8.fsf@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>
@ 2001-01-12 19:07 ` Vincent D Murphy
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From: Vincent D Murphy @ 2001-01-12 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Conway Yee; +Cc: 9fans
= Conway Yee <yee@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> [20010112 1843]:
> Could you send me the URL? tnx.
the author has given me the go-ahead so,
http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/~nemo/9.us.ps.gz
http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/~nemo/9.ps.gz
http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/~nemo/9.txt.gz
bear in mind that they're a work in progress.
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* Re: [9fans] lions' commentary
@ 2001-01-12 2:07 jmk
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From: jmk @ 2001-01-12 2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> i am looking for lions' commentary on plan9.
>
> We'd all love one, but didn't he write a commentary on UNIX V6?
>
> I'm reminded of the Jimi Hendrix lyrics as used in the film "Easy Rider"
>
> "Now, if 6 turned up to be 9,
> I don't mind, I don't mind."
>
> -George
I would have let this one by but as the spirit of the great Jimi was
invoked I feel compelled to reply.
Here's what appeared on the list last time this came up:
From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:17:55 -0400
> In the Peer-to-Peer edition of the Lion's book, there is a brief
> mention of a booklet that Lion wrote commenting on Plan 9 source.
> This was apparently during his last sabbatical (1989 or so).
> Presumably this implies something on the order of the 1st edition.
> Would THIS beast be available?
No. Even for the very very early version of the system it described,
it was incomplete and somewhat confused. John was really looking
for a new version of the Unix kernel and didn't find it. I'm not sure
if any copies exist, but if they do, I still wouldn't distribute them.
They are a poor description of the system and an unworthy legacy for
for John Lions.
-rob
No machine-readable copy exists and Rob's last sentence is spot on.
--jim
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