From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:32:17 -0700 From: Roman V Shaposhnik In-reply-to: <32279c2c064a969c8d9a805bd3fb3a4d@quanstro.net> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-id: <1253226737.10315.3703.camel@work> References: <32279c2c064a969c8d9a805bd3fb3a4d@quanstro.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C Topicbox-Message-UUID: 71bac238-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 17:02 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > ... In case anyone is wondering what they could be doing instead of feeding > > this massive thread more fatty foods. > > there's lots of complaining on the list about the > content of the list. > > it's not like there aren't good meaty issues to discuss. > what happened with either of the recently-reported > fossil lockup problems, for instance? > > i mentioned that the pool library can act as a big > kernel lock a few weeks ago. i don't know if anyone > has thoughts on how to deal with this. > > it seems to me we deserve the list we create. I think you're right. Perhaps different folks are approaching 9fans with different assumptions, though. I see 3 camps present: 1. The actual *developers* of the technology related to Plan 9. That would include you, Russ, Inferno folks and perhaps Nemo & co. 2. The actual users of Plan9. 3. The folks who do not use Plan9 in day-to-day life, but are fundamentally convinced in a WWP9D (what would Plan 9 do) principle. And, of course, there are also trolls. Trolls, aside, it looks like #1 and #2 might be slightly misaligned with #3. At least my personal experience of getting frustrated on 9fans comes mostly from the cases where I didn't positioned my question as the WWP9D one. It would be easy to say that list should be divided, in practice though, I'm not sure the folks who I would like to have a privilege of addressing would voluntarily subscribe to the #3 type of list. Thanks, Roman.