On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 10:34 +0200, hiro wrote:

20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these
days? Seldom do I say this phrase but what the fuck!

It's very special juice - made special by the way it's allowed to spoil.

You know, fine old oak barrels watched over by a dude who knows how to utter the word "tannins" with just the right nasality and who knows how to deflect questions about blind tasting without seeming evasive. There is much skill in that; such skill is not cheap.


On 5/9/11, Wes Kussmaul <wes@authentrus.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 18:54 +0200, tlaronde@polynum.com wrote:
>
>
>> Just look for the origin: the verb is "sophistiquer"... The usage and
>> the dictionnaries are inconsistant, since "sophistiqué" (now used non
>> pejoratively) is the past participle of "sophistiquer" that is
>> definitively pejorative. (Look for "sophistiquement" too; all this comes
>> from philosophy where sophiste is not to be taken in good part)...
>
>
> This is where semantics encounters the "everybody's somebody's fool"
> principle. I hang out with people who pay $20+++ for a liter of spoiled
> grape juice. The more they pay the more their peers regard them as being
> sophisticated. People outside that culture would see that very same use
> of the term "sophisticated" as a pejorative. Sophistication is in the
> eye of the beholder.
>