From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <13426df10704090822n2f4fe2mf26cc042e9de7de0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 08:22:27 -0700 From: "ron minnich" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] bell-labs website and plan9 In-Reply-To: <9ab217670704090750h19fd808dw171a046d088df5f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7d3530220704051415k79bab7efg97b140b77f4fdfba@mail.gmail.com> <9ab217670704090750h19fd808dw171a046d088df5f@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 418aa220-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 possibly inflammatory question: the ideas I've seen proposed so far don't seem superior in any way to, e.g., mercurial. Please note, I am sorry if this letter sounds offensive, I do not intend it to be. If, somehow, the proposed ideas represent a huge leap in 'something', it would be nice to know what 'something' is; I'm not getting it from the descriptions. So far, it all sounds like a bit of a kludge to cover for our lack of tools and time to build them. If, instead, the proposed ideas are more of the usual "There is a better non-Plan 9 system but we don't run it because we (a) can't compile it (b) don't have software to run it (c) we didn't invent it (i.e. NIH)", well, then, it's time to start bringing those better systems in, and put our efforts elsewhere. My take is that bringing in mercurial, and then using mercurial with mounted file systems, instead of ssh, would be quite neat. And, we are close to having it. We've got python, almost. We've just about got python modules -- actually, I've had them for months. Lots of bits work that did not used to. We really are pretty close. Take the best of both worlds, in other words, and create something new. But, if you can take other's good work, that can be a timesaver. thanks ron