[9fans] a challenge

[9fans] a challenge

[ron minnich]

here is a challenge. I realize it's linux but I think this is the
right group to ask anyway; I think you'll appreciate the humor in it.
So far few I have talked to have gotten it.

There is a file, called /bin/bash.

You are allowed to do this as root.
cp this file to /tmp. Do something to it to make it so that, when you
are not root, you can run the file in /tmp and get a root shell.

Don't assume the obvious. And please don't post "that's trivial" until
you have actually done it.

ron

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[Pietro Gagliardi]

I don't have Linux, but I'll see if Mac OS X has that vulnerability.

On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 PM, ron minnich wrote:

> here is a challenge. I realize it's linux but I think this is the
> right group to ask anyway; I think you'll appreciate the humor in it.
> So far few I have talked to have gotten it.
>
> There is a file, called /bin/bash.
>
> You are allowed to do this as root.
> cp this file to /tmp. Do something to it to make it so that, when you
> are not root, you can run the file in /tmp and get a root shell.
>
> Don't assume the obvious. And please don't post "that's trivial" until
> you have actually done it.
>
> ron

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[Pietro Gagliardi]

Nope.

On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:

> I don't have Linux, but I'll see if Mac OS X has that vulnerability.
>
> On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
>> here is a challenge. I realize it's linux but I think this is the
>> right group to ask anyway; I think you'll appreciate the humor in it.
>> So far few I have talked to have gotten it.
>>
>> There is a file, called /bin/bash.
>>
>> You are allowed to do this as root.
>> cp this file to /tmp. Do something to it to make it so that, when you
>> are not root, you can run the file in /tmp and get a root shell.
>>
>> Don't assume the obvious. And please don't post "that's trivial"
>> until
>> you have actually done it.
>>
>> ron
>

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[john]

> here is a challenge. I realize it's linux but I think this is the
> right group to ask anyway; I think you'll appreciate the humor in it.
> So far few I have talked to have gotten it.
>
> There is a file, called /bin/bash.
>
> You are allowed to do this as root.
> cp this file to /tmp. Do something to it to make it so that, when you
> are not root, you can run the file in /tmp and get a root shell.
>
> Don't assume the obvious. And please don't post "that's trivial" until
> you have actually done it.
>
> ron

On Debian, all you have to do is this as root:
cp /bin/bash /tmp/sh
chmod u+s /tmp/sh

Then you can run /tmp/sh as any user and get euid root. It seems that
you can ONLY do this if you rename bash to sh.


John

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[andrey mirtchovski]

well, i checked the source. turns out bash 3.2 drops privileges if uid
!= euid and requires the -p flag to allow itself to run in setuid
mode:

$ cp /bin/bash .
$ sudo chown root bash
$ sudo chmod 4755 bash
$ ./bash -p
# id
uid=500(andrey) gid=500(andrey) euid=0(root) groups=500(andrey)
# whoami
root
#

that doesn't make me like Plan 9 any less, you know :)

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:53 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> here is a challenge. I realize it's linux but I think this is the
>  right group to ask anyway; I think you'll appreciate the humor in it.
>  So far few I have talked to have gotten it.
>
>  There is a file, called /bin/bash.
>
>  You are allowed to do this as root.
>  cp this file to /tmp. Do something to it to make it so that, when you
>  are not root, you can run the file in /tmp and get a root shell.
>
>  Don't assume the obvious. And please don't post "that's trivial" until
>  you have actually done it.
>
>  ron
>

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[ron minnich]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, andrey mirtchovski
<mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:
> well, i checked the source. turns out bash 3.2 drops privileges if uid
>  != euid and requires the -p flag to allow itself to run in setuid
>  mode:

I saw something even more bizarre last night on busy box: it looked
like some library and/or bash was looking for a file called
/etc/sudo_test or some such.

It's just amazing the kind of stuff that the gnu guys are wrapping
around the kernel to try and bail the boat out.

ron

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[lucio]

> It's just amazing the kind of stuff that the gnu guys are wrapping
> around the kernel to try and bail the boat out.

I guess when you're sinking you do whatever it takes.  Imagine what
it's like for Microsoft...

++L

PS: MS-DOS didn't have all this trouble, I sometimes wonder if all
this additional security isn't exactly the opposite of what's needed.
I feel the same about cars with electronics and air bags, which is
hardly surprising because there are incredible parallels between the
car industry and the computer industry.  But the issue of security is
terribly ambiguous.

Re: [9fans] a challenge

[Charles Forsyth]

> I saw something even more bizarre last night on busy box: it looked

the punctuation is wrong there, i think:
	> I saw something even more bizarre last night: busy box
and you could just stop there