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From: "ron minnich" <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Blue Gene
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:06:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13426df10807311506g6b62daes1bfc1cdbef8b24f8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6b99e23c34adcc6cc3697f97342c10c@terzarima.net>

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> wrote:

> speaking of higher levels of abstraction:
> given some scientific code i've seen (before this, nothing to do with the things
> running on Blue Gene), i'd observe that fixing some of the algorithms used (which
> is compiler and platform independent activity) will often yield much bigger results
> than (say) compiling it with gcc, xlc, xlf, etc.  you'd be amazed (or perhaps not)
> how naive some of the code can be.

Excellent point. Some of the app code is terrible. I am hoping we'll
prove that we can "go native" and do as well as or better than the
existing apps. At the same time, having just gotten badly burned on
Clustermatic because people wanted to run xemacs on compute nodes and
got unhappy when we said no, I've gotten sensitized to the "wants" of
users. How you respond to stupid demands can make or break your
project. It's hard to take but we're a service industry.

ron



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-31 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26 18:37 Steven Vormwald
2008-07-26 18:47 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-30 12:32   ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-30 14:07     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-30 15:10       ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 15:21         ` Steven D. Vormwald
2008-07-30 15:38           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-30 15:41           ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 16:10             ` Steven D. Vormwald
2008-07-30 17:42               ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 17:52                 ` Steven D. Vormwald
2008-07-31 21:32               ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-30 16:34             ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-07-30 15:25         ` gdiaz
2008-07-30 15:36           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-30 23:36             ` David Leimbach
2008-07-31  0:02               ` ron minnich
2008-07-31  0:45                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-31  1:48                 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-31  2:23                   ` ron minnich
2008-07-31 12:53                     ` Philippe Anel
2008-07-31 13:35                       ` David Leimbach
2008-07-31 14:11                         ` Philippe Anel
2008-07-31 14:32                           ` David Leimbach
2008-07-31 16:04                       ` ron minnich
2008-08-04 23:19                     ` Uriel
2008-07-31 13:24             ` gdiaz
2008-07-31 13:24             ` gdiaz
2008-07-30 15:40           ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 17:36             ` don bailey
2008-07-30 17:39               ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-07-30 17:47                 ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 18:03               ` don bailey
2008-07-30 18:08                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-30 18:18                 ` ron minnich
2008-07-30 18:21                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-30 18:32                   ` ron minnich
2008-07-31 22:03                   ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-31 22:06                     ` ron minnich [this message]
2008-07-31 21:27           ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-30 15:43         ` Jack Johnson
2008-07-31 14:01 erik quanstrom
     [not found] <2049e07e918215a675b00f15ee549436@quanstro.net>
2008-07-31 14:28 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-31 15:20   ` erik quanstrom

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