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From: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server
Date: Thu,  6 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13426df10908061714h66c0194h210fd6910fdc4bcb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d3530220908061701t314fdc42i7bce59ad9ba7df9e@mail.gmail.com>

Short form:

on today's machines, if someone gets physical access, you're owned.
Not much more to say except that with the kind of features vendors
insist on embedding in the systems, you can easily be owned without
physical access -- see the recent Black Hat articles, and I'm not
naming names so I don't get fired. If the colo is doing their job, and
they'd better be!, then physical access is not an issue because it
won't happen, or, when it does happen, the people are trusted and
won't mess with your box.

9grid.net has been at, first, UNM computing center for 2 years and,
second, at LBL for 2 years. In all the time, there have been no
issues. The people at those places are trusted.

If colo staff can't own it by physical access then you've solved a
hard problem and might want to start selling it. In that case, you
need hardly worry about trusting your colo, so put it there anyway.

Screensaver + password seems rather quaint in light of these realities.

ron



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-07  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-06  2:20 Corey
2009-08-06  2:42 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-06  6:15   ` Corey
2009-08-06  6:30     ` John Floren
2009-08-06  7:52       ` Corey
2009-08-06  8:19         ` Robert Raschke
2009-08-06 23:28           ` Corey
2009-08-07  0:01             ` John Floren
2009-08-07  0:14               ` ron minnich [this message]
2009-08-07  0:17               ` John Floren
2009-08-07  8:55                 ` Steve Simon
2009-08-07  1:00               ` Corey
2009-08-06 10:33         ` Steve Simon
2009-08-07  1:34           ` blstuart
2009-08-07  2:50             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-07 12:37               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-08-07 14:37                 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-07 14:53                 ` David Leimbach
2009-08-07 12:05           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-08-07 12:29             ` Iruata Souza
2009-08-07 12:39               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-08-07 13:02                 ` Iruata Souza
2009-08-07 13:27                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-08-07 14:44               ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-08-06 12:54         ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-06 15:16       ` David Leimbach
2009-08-06 11:47     ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-07  0:25       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-08-07  0:59         ` hiro
2009-08-07  3:04           ` Daniel Lyons
2009-08-07  3:36             ` John Floren
2009-08-07  9:51               ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-08  4:12               ` lucio
2009-08-07  1:29         ` blstuart
2009-08-10 10:06   ` Corey
2009-08-10 10:33     ` Steve Simon
2009-08-10 10:43       ` Corey
2009-08-10 16:01         ` ron minnich
2009-08-10 20:43           ` Corey
2009-08-11  1:18             ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-07  4:19 lucio
2009-08-07  5:04 ` Corey
2009-08-08  4:26   ` lucio
2009-08-07  4:19 lucio
2009-08-07  4:19 lucio
2009-08-07  4:55 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-08-08  4:08   ` lucio
2009-08-08  7:42     ` Daniel Lyons
2009-08-07  4:56 ` Corey

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