From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <42823630713993f842f39502983f2623@yyc.orthanc.ca> References: <4ACB916D.1010701@conducive.org> <42823630713993f842f39502983f2623@yyc.orthanc.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:03:13 -0700 Message-ID: <13426df10910061303u37e82be1x5a1e145271e5498b@mail.gmail.com> From: ron minnich To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1) Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8239d14e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: > I don't think DEC deserves this branding. In my experience they were > one of the most open hardware companies around. Back when they were still > DEC, of course. You never dealt with Alpha maybe. The story is long and sad. One word: PALcode. DEC deliberately limited PALcode access so that 3rd party board vendors could not make boards as good as DECs. It did not seem to matter that these vendors were selling Alphas ... only that their Alpha board should not be "too good". This story is just one of many w.r.t. DEC. It was sad to watch the Alpha blow its early lead due to internal politics. Get with somebody who was in DEC at the time trying to make Alpha succeed and you'll hear some interesting tales. Does this situation have a present-day equivalent in the PC world? Yes. ron