From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200910062115.n96LFdYE020163@skeeve.com> References: <908aebe446ac7ac2d613feac1d220f9b@plan9.bell-labs.com> <13426df10910061021g3b033abbia134769baee934d3@mail.gmail.com> <200910062115.n96LFdYE020163@skeeve.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:32:50 -0700 Message-ID: <13426df10910061432y17cf8632ta09af4ffe215375b@mail.gmail.com> From: ron minnich To: Aharon Robbins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1) Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8272a9ec-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aharon Robbins wrote: > I understand all your points, and many of them are good ones. But there > really are places where you don't want to go, and into the chipset > is one of them. Not really the case. People do want to go there, so they can do interesting things like put an FPGA into a CPU socket. Non-x86 vendors in the embedded space don't say things like " there really are places where you don't want to go" in my experience. Just look at the fact that so many ARM-based boards use U-boot -- GPL'ed firmware. That's why so much of the really cool stuff at various conferences nowadays usually involves non-x86 embedded systems -- you can do interesting things there you can't do in the x86 world any more -- things you used to see done on x86es now get done on other systems. ron