From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3e1162e61003220847k2129d16ara4474e75e2c2a755@mail.gmail.com> References: <13426df11003202248l4c8f9577ueab252b93b785810@mail.gmail.com> <13426df11003211447x61159036td8f217e9cc7052d2@mail.gmail.com> <3e1162e61003220847k2129d16ara4474e75e2c2a755@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:07:52 -0700 Message-ID: <13426df11003220907o3d2d4959s5824d5e356fe438e@mail.gmail.com> From: ron minnich To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening Topicbox-Message-UUID: ef0c9626-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > I got the hunch it wasn't designed at all, but more "hacked on" or evolved. I shouldn't be so down on Linux, as it is arguably the most successful OS out there. It runs on my e-reader, will be running on my next phone, probably runs on things you own which you don't know about -- it's everywhere. It made a lot of what I do in HPC possible. Linux's runaway success is part of the problem! It is almost inevitable that when you run on *anything* and you open the gates to lots of contributors your work will lose a certain intellectual coherence, and that's what has happened with Linux. Add to the fact that he started with a pretty old-fashioned design (classical Unix, with it's "major and minor nodes" and so on) and it's not surprising that it's not that pretty. And there are parts of it that are quite elegant, such as lguest. But it still gives me a splitting headache every time I have to deep-dive to do anything :-) ron