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identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="k@pixelheresy.com"; helo=mail.v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de; client-ip=5.45.100.188 Received: from mail.v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de (v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de [5.45.100.188]) by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for <9fans@9fans.net>; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:13:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from k@pixelheresy.com) Received: from phiax.lan (213-204-48-62.bredband.aland.net [213.204.48.62]) by mail.v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15ADF824B9 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:13:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <141E9336AE67480E134FDE7154F09B80@pixelheresy.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] New to plan9 From: "Keith Gibbs" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:13:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: bd8d88ce-2e69-11ec-8ae0-d90a67493d0b Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNGU4OTg5ZWU0Mjk1MWZhMC1NN2VmMzdlZTNkZDI1ZTdjNDQxMDcx?= =?UTF-8?B?ZWU0Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M7ef37ee3dd25e7c441071ee4:1:CbYF-C2aCuTD8AvbbRTeqQKUqGZJtlPUsNifH6eYm8Y Yeah, don't switch for simple tools like mothra, but as you learn more, there are strengths to both. I ran the "9miller" Pi version for a bit and as a retro computer collector and old software junkie, I enjoyed myself, but I played with VMs and then got some baremetal installs of 9front going. 9legacy is fantastic for the "historical preservation" end of things and it totally usable. I found myself more and more drawn to 9front because it is more about *using* Plan 9 for either specialized purpose or daily driver usage. I personally run a 9front cpu+auth server on my network with 9p/drawterm ports forwarded from my fiber hookup. In that way, I always have access to my 9 box from the office, from home, from anywhere. I use it for writing, C, Go, IRC, as well as a webserver. Also, since it is on my network, I can basically access any machine of mine via sshfs or 9p at any time, making it a Rosetta Stone of sorts. Most new software made by the community tends to be developed with 9front in mind/on 9front, so if you are looking for things like YouTube playback, security, a more modern browser (netsurf port), esoteric programming languages, etc. you will have an easier time on 9front. That being said, some really old stuff doesn't quite work the same as old old 9, which can get annoying if you find docs or software from decades ago, but that's less important for me personally. So get your feet wet! If you find you like the retro computing aspect most, 9legacy is a great distro. If you are most interested in modern/more experimental stuff, 9front is awesome. That being said, 9front is *not that far* from Plan 9 from Bell Labs 4th edition, especially compared to Harvey, Jehanne, or even Inferno in a lot of ways. Folks from both (actually *all*) communities are frequent readers/users of this mailing list. Cheers, -pixelheresy Quoth joseph turco : > Your quite right, I wouldn't switch to 9front for that reason, but is nice > that 9front does have more secure protocols in place. I stuck with bell > labs because the RPI iso was right there I wanted to see the OS from the > beginning. Its also why I have the bootable 9legacy USB for my old deskto= p, > but that's sitting around until I can figure out the OS, so then I can get > it running how I want on there, and link up the systems so that the deskt= op > acts as a shared fs. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4e8989ee42951fa0-M7ef37= ee3dd25e7c441071ee4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription