From: dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] C++
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:21:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441348.rbkaJH2T22@coil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACm3i_hFS2UcU4-XH+61vuwvntyMuChg-REumfaTSDvD0-vP2g@mail.gmail.com>
On Friday 23 of November 2012 10:47:09 Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Winston Kodogo <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > But, let the record show, C++ has been scientifically shown to be an
> > unbelievably crap and monstrously complex language, even though I earn
> > my daily bread by using it. I was a contemporary of Dr Stroustrup when
> > he was spending his time dragging the Cambridge mainframe to its knees
> > using the Simula compiler - the kindest description I ever heard from
> > friends in the computer lab was "stubborn"- and occasionally, ok
> > frequently, or indeed always, am tempted to view C++ as his revenge on
> > the world for pointing out that he doesn't have a clue how to program
> > efficiently.
>
> Yes, this is why most games, which do not need speed or efficiency at all
> are programmed in C++. (...)
you've just stepped on my pet peeve, apologies in advance for what follows.
<<'NITPICK'
the bulk of in-game graphics processing is done via OpenGL calls/DirectX
calls/whatever goes on the PS3' Cell CPU. the C++ parts could be replaced with
Python and noone would be any the wiser.
similarily, Youtube flash player does not decode nor scale video in Flash'
Actionscript; the GPU does it. unless you have broken drivers like i had once,
in which case it is /slow/.
C++ for the assembly-line-style game development [1] is choosen as PHB's safe
bet -- a.k.a. ``industry's stadard practice'' -- and not on technical merits.
cue picture of Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).
if you really must, John Carmak writes idomatic C, not C++.
NITPICK;
[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4821152 and countless other stories.
--
dexen deVries
[[[↓][→]]]
Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
-- Alvy Ray Smith
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Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-22 22:32 Winston Kodogo
2012-11-23 3:04 ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-11-23 9:47 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-11-23 10:21 ` dexen deVries [this message]
2012-11-23 13:28 ` Pedro Lamarão
2012-11-23 14:02 ` lucio
2012-11-25 6:03 ` David Leimbach
2012-11-27 17:09 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2012-11-27 19:57 ` David Leimbach
2012-11-27 20:15 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-03 10:02 ` faif
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-24 1:45 Winston Kodogo
2012-11-19 22:48 [9fans] c++ steve
2012-11-20 1:37 ` Jeff Sickel
2012-11-20 2:08 ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-20 10:12 ` Steve Simon
2012-11-22 9:54 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-22 10:07 ` lucio
2012-11-22 10:21 ` Nemo
2012-11-22 15:37 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:19 ` Nemo
2012-11-22 16:31 ` lucio
2012-11-25 6:09 ` David Leimbach
2012-11-22 10:39 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 10:18 ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2012-11-22 11:34 ` hiro
2012-11-22 11:57 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 14:25 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 13:13 ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 13:48 ` hiro
2012-11-22 14:22 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:38 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 14:47 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:54 ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 15:47 ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 16:00 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 16:11 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 16:15 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:31 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 17:30 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:18 ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 16:06 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:07 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 16:12 ` Hugo Rivera
2012-11-22 16:25 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:51 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 17:16 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 17:39 ` lucio
2012-11-22 17:51 ` Paul Lalonde
2012-11-22 17:53 ` hiro
2012-11-22 18:13 ` lucio
2012-11-22 18:00 ` lucio
2012-12-03 13:43 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-12-03 14:13 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-12-03 14:58 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-03 15:21 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-12-03 15:29 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-12-04 21:36 ` hiro
2012-11-22 16:58 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 22:25 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-22 14:54 ` dexen deVries
2012-11-22 17:04 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:31 ` hiro
2012-11-22 17:45 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:46 ` lucio
2012-11-22 20:17 ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-22 17:42 ` lucio
2012-11-22 17:44 ` hiro
2012-11-22 17:47 ` lucio
2012-11-22 19:55 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-23 3:31 ` lucio
2012-11-23 3:56 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 17:50 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 17:59 ` lucio
2012-11-22 18:02 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 18:12 ` lucio
2012-11-22 19:15 ` Richard Miller
2012-11-22 21:48 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 21:34 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 16:15 ` Christopher Nielsen
2012-11-22 17:10 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 17:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-22 17:22 ` tlaronde
2012-11-22 17:27 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 17:45 ` Dan Cross
2012-11-22 19:55 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-23 9:42 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-22 17:58 ` lucio
2012-11-22 16:32 ` Richard Miller
2012-11-22 17:39 ` hiro
2012-11-22 20:14 ` Matthew Veety
2012-11-22 15:50 ` lucio
2012-11-22 14:54 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-22 17:40 ` Pavel Klinkovsky
2012-11-22 18:11 ` tlaronde
2012-11-20 19:58 ` Wes Kussmaul
2012-11-20 20:07 ` tlaronde
2012-11-20 20:17 ` Wes Kussmaul
2012-11-22 12:58 ` Pedro Lamarão
2012-11-20 19:05 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-20 20:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2012-11-20 20:09 ` dexen deVries
2012-11-19 9:59 Steve Simon
2012-11-19 10:10 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2012-11-19 11:31 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-11-19 10:45 ` iainws
2012-11-19 12:17 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-11-19 12:46 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-11-19 12:55 ` hiro
2012-11-19 13:22 ` cinap_lenrek
2012-11-19 14:58 ` tlaronde
2012-11-19 15:17 ` Bence Fábián
2012-11-19 14:25 ` Robert Raschke
2012-11-19 14:56 ` Calvin Morrison
2012-11-19 14:09 ` cinap_lenrek
2012-11-19 15:38 ` Bence Fábián
2012-11-19 16:45 ` Jeff Sickel
2012-11-19 15:10 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-11-22 14:10 ` David Leimbach
2012-11-22 14:13 ` David Leimbach
2012-11-19 16:21 ` Andrés Domínguez
2012-11-19 20:02 ` Aharon Robbins
2012-11-20 2:24 ` Taj Khattra
2012-11-20 3:47 ` Bruce Ellis
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