Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

["G. David Butler" <gdb@dbsystems.com>]

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The issue is ownership and grants. Not the code the foundation now owns and grants with a MIT license. It’s all the code that everyone is using. See the following email thread:

https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T755e5f03f61e4ad9-M2a5721b473ddb74b3c3d9503/9fans-is-the-vanilla-plan-9-still-alive

David

Sent from my phone. Please excuse misspellings and terseness.


> On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:34 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The LPL is dead. It died when all the Plan 9 IP was transferred to the
> foundation.
> 
> Nokia is out of the picture.
> 
> So let's realign this discussion a bit. The Plan 9 source formerly
> owned by Nokia is owned by the foundation. That source is released
> under the MIT license.
> 
> As for the inclusion of source not owned by the foundation, if that
> source has a license (e.g. MIT) which allows other projects, including
> the foundation's Plan 9 project,  to include it in a distribution or
> repo, then that is ok. As per common practice, and up to the
> discretion of the author, the files typically include a license header
> and copyright notice.
> 
> I'm not understanding the issue here. This is all pretty settled
> stuff: source code under one copyright and an MIT license which
> includes other source code covered by a different copyright and an MIT
> license.
> 
> ron
> 
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:10 AM Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>>>> As I interpret it, we'd need Nokia to re-release Plan 9 under a Lucent
>>>> Public License version 1.03 which would be the MIT license for
>>>> contributions to be relicensed (if I'm interpreting it correctly the
>>>> GPL release of Plan 9 couldn't apply to contributions either.)
>>> 
>>> I Am Not A Lawyer, and I don't doubt that the P9 foundation can
>>> get good lawyers.  But, once _ownership_ of the copyright was transferred
>>> to the P9F, they can do what they want with it, including publishing
>>> under the MIT license.  There should not be a need to involve Nokia
>>> any further.
>> 
>> The problem is Nokia doesn't own the contributions, so they can't transfer
>> them to the P9F, but the LPL says they have the right to update the LPL,
>> or was this right transferred to the P9F too?

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