* [9fans] extensions of "interest" @ 2009-04-09 17:17 ron minnich 2009-04-09 17:25 ` erik quanstrom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2009-04-09 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix statlite() ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:17 [9fans] extensions of "interest" ron minnich @ 2009-04-09 17:25 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 17:34 ` J.R. Mauro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Thu Apr 9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote: > www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix > > statlite() the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available on the web in pdf form. - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:25 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:34 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 17:40 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > On Thu Apr 9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote: >> www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix >> >> statlite() > > the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available > on the web in pdf form. And MS doc! There's a common Unix-y file format. > > - erik > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:34 ` J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 17:40 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > > On Thu Apr 9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote: > >> www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix > >> > >> statlite() > > > > the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available > > on the web in pdf form. > > And MS doc! There's a common Unix-y file format. although statlite seems impossible to use, it's by no means the most troublesome syscall suggested. check out openg and sutoc. kernel file handles? by the way, it's a long time since i've seen a precidence bug in a man page, but openg manages. see p. 7 of openg linked from the same page. - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:34 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 17:40 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, .rtf, etc). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 17:58 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 17:59 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 19:05 ` maht 2009-04-10 1:35 ` LiteStar numnums 2 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Thu Apr 9 13:44:50 EDT 2009, mirtchovski@gmail.com wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to > establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, > .rtf, etc). or you could refrain from making the web any worse by just providing the document in ... oh, what's that archane format ... right, html. if i recall correctly, it's the standard for web content. ☺ by the way, this is an absolute gem from sutoc "handles are not inherently portable. however, between like architechtures and software operating system support versions things just might work out. fills me with optimism. - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 17:58 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 17:59 ` andrey mirtchovski 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > On Thu Apr 9 13:44:50 EDT 2009, mirtchovski@gmail.com wrote: >> i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to >> specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to >> receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to >> establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, >> .rtf, etc). > > or you could refrain from making the web any worse by just > providing the document in ... oh, what's that archane format ... > right, html. if i recall correctly, it's the standard for web content. > > ☺ > > by the way, this is an absolute gem from sutoc > > "handles are not inherently portable. however, between like > architechtures and software operating system support versions > things just might work out. > > fills me with optimism. Almost as cheery as alloca() and gets(), another fine pair of functions we should all use more often :) > > - erik > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 17:58 ` J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 17:59 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 18:06 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-04-09 21:25 ` Steve Simon 1 sibling, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > or you could refrain from making the web any worse by just > providing the document in ... oh, what's that archane format ... > right, html. if i recall correctly, it's the standard for web content. in the immortal words of Colin Chapman: "Complicate, then add weight". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:59 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 18:06 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-04-09 21:25 ` Steve Simon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Anthony Sorace @ 2009-04-09 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs from the man pages^W^Wpdf: // FUTURE DIRECTIONS // // None. we should be so lucky. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:59 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 18:06 ` Anthony Sorace @ 2009-04-09 21:25 ` Steve Simon 2009-04-09 21:30 ` andrey mirtchovski 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2009-04-09 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > in the immortal words of Colin Chapman: "Complicate, then add weight". Is this sarcasm? I remember the quote as: "To add speed, add lightness" -Steve ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 21:25 ` Steve Simon @ 2009-04-09 21:30 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 21:31 ` andrey mirtchovski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > Is this sarcasm? yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at least one person caught that. internet is bizarro world. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 21:30 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 21:31 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 22:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: >> Is this sarcasm? > > yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at > least one person caught that. > > internet is bizarro world. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 21:31 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 22:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2009-04-09 22:45 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-10 12:40 ` John P. Cummings 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah 1 sibling, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2009-04-09 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski > <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is this sarcasm? >> >> yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at >> least one person caught that. >> >> internet is bizarro world. >> according to wikiquote.org it is "Simplicate, then add lightness". i had not heard it before; it's good. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 22:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2009-04-09 22:45 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-10 12:40 ` John P. Cummings 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > according to wikiquote.org it is "Simplicate, then add lightness". yes, it's even better than how i remember it! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 22:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2009-04-09 22:45 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-10 12:40 ` John P. Cummings 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: John P. Cummings @ 2009-04-10 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >> ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski >> <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> Is this sarcasm? >>>> >>> yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at >>> least one person caught that. >>> >>> internet is bizarro world. >>> >>> > > according to wikiquote.org it is "Simplicate, then add lightness". > i had not heard it before; it's good. > i've always thought that quote was due to william bushnell stout, an aeronautical and automotive engineer. whoever said it, it _is_ good. and worth remembering. john cummings ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 21:31 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 22:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah 2009-04-09 23:10 ` erik quanstrom ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2009-04-09 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:31:35 MDT andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: > ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can only simplicate; we can't add lightness! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah @ 2009-04-09 23:10 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-10 5:16 ` lucio 2009-04-09 23:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 23:20 ` Robert Raschke 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel > with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! read ken's code! - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 23:10 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-10 5:16 ` lucio 2009-04-11 23:34 ` Russ Cox 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-04-10 5:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >> Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel >> with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. >> Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can >> only simplicate; we can't add lightness! > > read ken's code! I still can't figure what "typestr" does in the C compiler! :-) :-) :-) ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-10 5:16 ` lucio @ 2009-04-11 23:34 ` Russ Cox 2009-04-12 2:42 ` Anthony Sorace 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2009-04-11 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: lucio, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > I still can't figure what "typestr" does in the C compiler! right on schedule! http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482 (may 31 2001) http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69 (may 7 2005) russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-11 23:34 ` Russ Cox @ 2009-04-12 2:42 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-04-12 4:53 ` lucio 2009-04-14 0:03 ` dave.l 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Anthony Sorace @ 2009-04-12 2:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > right on schedule! > > http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482 (may 31 2001) > http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69 (may 7 2005) okay, that timing's just freaky. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-12 2:42 ` Anthony Sorace @ 2009-04-12 4:53 ` lucio 2009-04-14 0:03 ` dave.l 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-04-12 4:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >> right on schedule! >> >> http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482 (may 31 2001) >> http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69 (may 7 2005) > > okay, that timing's just freaky. And I keep missing the crucial message :-( Freaky, definitely. Thanks for the explanation. Specially to Jim :-) ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-12 2:42 ` Anthony Sorace 2009-04-12 4:53 ` lucio @ 2009-04-14 0:03 ` dave.l 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: dave.l @ 2009-04-14 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Is it? It's probably a statistical certainty based on 9-fans being a fairly fixed-size group, which it does seem to be and human beings being remarkably similar in their ability to forget things. Max kudos to Russ as usual for spotting it. Let's wait another approx 4 years less 3 weeks and see what happens. On 12 Apr 2009, at 03:42, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> right on schedule! >> >> http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482 (may 31 2001) >> http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69 (may 7 2005) > > okay, that timing's just freaky. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah 2009-04-09 23:10 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 23:10 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-10 5:05 ` Bakul Shah 2009-04-09 23:20 ` Robert Raschke 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! but somehow we can add "weight". can't we? bash is perceivably "heavier" than rc, xml perceivably "heavier" than 9p... statlite() perceivably "heavier" than stat() :) we just don't quantify "weight" in terms of kilos, but we know it's there... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 23:10 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-10 5:05 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2009-04-10 5:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:10:47 MDT andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote: > > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! > > but somehow we can add "weight". can't we? bash is perceivably > "heavier" than rc, xml perceivably "heavier" than 9p... statlite() > perceivably "heavier" than stat() :) Yes of course. But that is because they use a more complicated design that results in use of more code. What I meant is in a physical assembly you can carefully hollow out a solid part or use a lighter material to get a lighter part without changing its structural properties (much) and no other parts or couplings have to be changed. In a program one can use hand code asembly or inline code instead of calling a function, or call a function instead of RPC to a separate process and so on but in each case there is a tighter coupling that reduces flexibility. Design done by wizards have simpler and fewer parts -- they are simply much better at design. They "simplicate". But granted, the analogy is rather weak :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 23:06 ` Bakul Shah 2009-04-09 23:10 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 23:10 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2009-04-09 23:20 ` Robert Raschke 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Robert Raschke @ 2009-04-09 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote: > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! In manufacturing, I'd suppose lighter materials are harder to make and use, kind of like using low level languages for components. Standard optimization techique, replace measurably slow (heavy) components by something implemented closer (lighter) to the machine. Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 19:05 ` maht 2009-04-09 19:16 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-10 1:35 ` LiteStar numnums 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: maht @ 2009-04-09 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs andrey mirtchovski wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to > establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, > .rtf, etc). > > > Already part of HTTP Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 19:05 ` maht @ 2009-04-09 19:16 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 19:22 ` erik quanstrom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM, maht <mattmobile@proweb.co.uk> wrote: > andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> >> i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to >> specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to >> receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to >> establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, >> .rtf, etc). >> >> >> > > Already part of HTTP > > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 > > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first > > Wow. Could it get any worse? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 19:16 ` J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 19:22 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 19:40 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 19:43 ` Mechiel Lukkien 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > > Already part of HTTP > > > > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; > > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 > > > > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first > > > > > > Wow. Could it get any worse? yes. just read a few lines further in the rfc and note that there's also a "level" modifier. it's not clear to me what level is supposed to do from their example. Accept: text/*;q=0.3, text/html;q=0.7, text/html;level=1, text/html;level=2;q=0.4, */*;q=0.5 - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 19:22 ` erik quanstrom @ 2009-04-09 19:40 ` J.R. Mauro 2009-04-09 19:43 ` Mechiel Lukkien 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: >> > Already part of HTTP >> > >> > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; >> > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 >> > >> > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first >> > >> > >> >> Wow. Could it get any worse? > > yes. just read a few lines further in the rfc and note that > there's also a "level" modifier. it's not clear to me what > level is supposed to do from their example. > > Accept: text/*;q=0.3, text/html;q=0.7, text/html;level=1, > text/html;level=2;q=0.4, */*;q=0.5 > I took a look at this page: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html And it seems to suggest that "level" is for picking between text/html and text/html [sic] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 19:22 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 19:40 ` J.R. Mauro @ 2009-04-09 19:43 ` Mechiel Lukkien 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Mechiel Lukkien @ 2009-04-09 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:22:48PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > Already part of HTTP > > > > > > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; > > > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 > > > > > > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first > > > > > > > > > > Wow. Could it get any worse? > > yes. just read a few lines further in the rfc and note that > there's also a "level" modifier. it's not clear to me what > level is supposed to do from their example. > > Accept: text/*;q=0.3, text/html;q=0.7, text/html;level=1, > text/html;level=2;q=0.4, */*;q=0.5 and there is more! 10.3.1 300 Multiple Choices The requested resource corresponds to any one of a set of representations, each with its own specific location, and agent- driven negotiation information (section 12) is being provided so that the user (or user agent) can select a preferred representation and redirect its request to that location. ... mjl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest" 2009-04-09 17:43 ` andrey mirtchovski 2009-04-09 17:48 ` erik quanstrom 2009-04-09 19:05 ` maht @ 2009-04-10 1:35 ` LiteStar numnums 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: LiteStar numnums @ 2009-04-10 1:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1249 bytes --] what, no SOAP? Not enterprise ready. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com>wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to > establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, > .rtf, etc). > > -- And in the "Only Prolog programmers will find this funny" department: Q: How many Prolog programmers does it take to change a lightbulb? A: No. -- Ovid "By cosmic rule, as day yields night, so winter summer, war peace, plenty famine. All things change. Air penetrates the lump of myrrh, until the joining bodies die and rise again in smoke called incense." "Men do not know how that which is drawn in different directions harmonises with itself. The harmonious structure of the world depends upon opposite tension like that of the bow and the lyre." "This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures" -- Heraclitus [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1615 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
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