From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <1530125131.2031840.1422543824.3E1D2B07@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: "Ethan A. Gardener" To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" References: <7715F725-C18F-42C0-9169-A507F12BDD27@airmail.cc> <0D1DE354-BD92-4969-9AC7-F6ABA745EA95@yingmi.cn> <81111AFC-BFA1-4C66-8492-DDDFE25DDC9D@gmail.com> <75E643D1-A04F-4418-AFB0-6E6A7EB21CA1@yingmi.cn> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:45:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <75E643D1-A04F-4418-AFB0-6E6A7EB21CA1@yingmi.cn> Subject: Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for? Topicbox-Message-UUID: d9003a46-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, at 4:24 AM, =E5=88=98=E5=AE=87=E5=AE=9D wrote: >=20 > Recently I read Rob Pike's "Systems Software Research is Irrelevant", I=20 > felt pity, and I was wondering what the operating system would look like= =20 > in the future, here is my stupid optimistic predication: I felt sad when I read it too, but like you, I hope the prevalence of KVM=20 will bring a new wave of OS development. :) >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Server hardware will become extreme powerful, TB DRAM, non-vo= latile=20 > memory, NVMe disk, 100Gb ethernet, the paradigm of separate cpu server,=20 > file server, (a little fat) terminals will come back to be mainstream,=20= =20 > network of piles of cheap PCs will go away. > =E2=80=A2 Linux=EF=BC=8Ceven BSD=EF=BC=8Cbecame the underlying device dr= iver and "BIOS", this=20 > is almost the current situation, Linux KVM, Xen + Linux dom0 hide=20 > details of hardware. This layer takes care maximum hardware support and=20 > raw performance. > =E2=80=A2 *Distributed* operating systems above KVM/Xen will step into a= period=20 > of great development, hardware support and maximum raw performance are=20 > not top priorities, *OS native* fault tolerance, simple and clear=20 > distributed process scheduling, easy and consistent IPC/RPC API will=20 > win, Google Kubernetes will die. Many ideas of Plan 9 will revive, just=20 > like memory garbage collecting revived after about 30 years. >=20 > Regards, > Yubao Liu >=20