From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <1539078321.2370732.1535646856.66985DB8@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Gardener To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" References: <20181009001435.B6DDA156E40C@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 10:45:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!) Topicbox-Message-UUID: e92db97a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, at 4:28 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > On 10/9/18, Bakul Shah wrote: > > One thing I have mused about is recasting plan9 as a > > microkernel and pushing out a lot of its kernel code into user > > mode code. > > > There are religious reasons not to go there I'm trying to forget all the religious beliefs I once held with regard to computers, but I've had these lines in my head for a long time, and probably won't get a better opportunity to post them: One day, Uriel met a man who explained very convincingly that the Plan 9 kernel is a microkernel. On another day, Uriel met a man who explained very convincingly that the Plan 9 kernel is a macrokernel. Uriel was enlightened. Based on a true story. ;) > You won't believe what kind of madnesses I need to deal with to > consume my few and short remaining years - I'm with Dan in cursing the > modern technological trends, but one of these days I'm going to lock > myself in someone's attic or basement (or a prison cell, if that's > what it takes, a monastery, whatever...) with my Galaxy S4 and a dated > Riff-box - is that really what this black object is called? - and > build an OS from the accumulated wisdom of the last forty years. It > will probably look more like MS-DOS, though! :-( I've started already, but I keep getting sidetracked by my need for entertainment, which often comes down to spending my energies on things which don't require such deep design work. I'm hoping it'll get easier as my health improves; I'm still too stressed too often. The trouble with this stress is I forget my goals, which are things I've learned from Plan 9 and other conclusions I've come to. -- Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long -- Ogden Nash